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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 07:53 PM
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Hondata S300, Innovate MTX-L wideband, ID1000cc injectors. Obviously I could try and monitor the fuel trim with the wideband while adjusting, but I'm not sure how quick you can wash the cylinders and cause damage. My options are basemap it to run below 4,000 RPM and drive it directly to the tuner maybe 20 miles away, or risk nothing and sacrifice a AAA tow. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 08:37 PM
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You won't damage your cylinders instantly by running too rich or lean at idle while you tune your overall fuel trim.

Either get a basemap from your tuner and play with the overall fuel trim until the a/f ratios are good enough to drive on or tow the car.

You can also contact the dealer you bought the system from for a basemap.
We provide customers that purchase their system from us with a free basemap at the time of purchase.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 08:42 PM
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I figured you would chime in and hoped that you did lol. Unfortunately I didn't purchase the Hondata from you but you would be the one tuning the car. How much would it be for a basemap?
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 02:19 AM
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mtber, do you visit PR? If not, can I contract you to come down and tune some cars? I can make an "event" out of it ;-)
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by FlewByU352
I figured you would chime in and hoped that you did lol. Unfortunately I didn't purchase the Hondata from you but you would be the one tuning the car. How much would it be for a basemap?
http://www.phearable.net/shoppingcar...ware-c-40.html
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 7rrivera7
mtber, do you visit PR? If not, can I contract you to come down and tune some cars? I can make an "event" out of it ;-)
I have never been to PR.

I am honestly too busy to travel at the moment :-)
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 09:53 PM
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Thanks John! If I don't use AAA (depending on how many tows are left for track days) I will definitely be purchasing a base map from ya and scheduling a dyno tune.
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 06:48 PM
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Go into S300's software, enter in the battery offset (aka injector latency) table numbers ID gives you, then rescale the map for 900cc injectors. ID1000's flow 880-900cc when tested with Heptane-N. ID got those numbers with raw gasoline. It makes sense until you realize the ecu numbers are for Heptane-N numbers.
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 09:50 PM
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Go into S300's software, enter in the battery offset (aka injector latency) table numbers ID gives you, then rescale the map for 900cc injectors. ID1000's flow 880-900cc when tested with Heptane-N. ID got those numbers with raw gasoline. It makes sense until you realize the ecu numbers are for Heptane-N numbers.
cheers mate! I have 3 AAA 100 mile tow's between now and September 1st. I might use this info and get her fired up! If 10 minutes of tinkering can't get me an A/F between 13 and 14:1 under 4000RPM I will probably just have it towed. What would be a dangerously rich/cylinder washing A/F ratio like 10 or 11:1?
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Default Re: Base mapping 1000cc injectors...

Originally Posted by HiProfile
Go into S300's software, enter in the battery offset (aka injector latency) table numbers ID gives you, then rescale the map for 900cc injectors. ID1000's flow 880-900cc when tested with Heptane-N. ID got those numbers with raw gasoline. It makes sense until you realize the ecu numbers are for Heptane-N numbers.

Would this be the same for ectune or neptune
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Old Aug 13, 2012 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FlewByU352
cheers mate! I have 3 AAA 100 mile tow's between now and September 1st. I might use this info and get her fired up! If 10 minutes of tinkering can't get me an A/F between 13 and 14:1 under 4000RPM I will probably just have it towed. What would be a dangerously rich/cylinder washing A/F ratio like 10 or 11:1?
your not gonna wash your rings, make sure it cruises in the 12-14a/fs so you just get to a tuner. DO not get on it tho! Just cruise and you will be fine, if the motor was built right it will last.
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 07:27 AM
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If you had Neptune Demon, I could have made you a really nice basemap. Not sure about Hondata, but its so easy, with Neptune...
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Lowwryyy
If you had Neptune Demon, I could have made you a really nice basemap. Not sure about Hondata, but its so easy, with Neptune...
I have no idea who you are, therefore I would never use a basemap that you made in my personal car. I learned to really trust nobody but yourself besides those that have a serious reputation. Hence why the only other people that have touched my car besides me for the window tint, exhaust welding, and a friend that does wiring as a career for the alarm.
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 06:31 PM
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Default Re: Base mapping 1000cc injectors...

Originally Posted by HiProfile
Go into S300's software, enter in the battery offset (aka injector latency) table numbers ID gives you, then rescale the map for 900cc injectors. ID1000's flow 880-900cc when tested with Heptane-N. ID got those numbers with raw gasoline. It makes sense until you realize the ecu numbers are for Heptane-N numbers.
Are Precision 1000cc the same idea, or do you know what values they would need?
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