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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 07:35 AM
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Default 2 Step Launch/Launch Control?

Hey fella's, I am interested in learning about these systems, yet I can't find a proper topic about it? Does anyone know if theres a explanation topic or something? About what the pro's & con's are, etc?

Sorry for asking ;>
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 07:44 AM
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No con's about it except you cannot rev the motor out while sitting at idle. No clutch dropping for burn outs if you consider those to be cons. Pros would be the fact you can launch at whatever rpm you set it to, and you can bounce of the rev limiter to look cool
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 07:49 AM
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Do a search next time.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/2-step-launch-control-2675624/
You really aren't the first person to ask this question.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by cvcrcr99
No con's about it except you cannot rev the motor out while sitting at idle. No clutch dropping for burn outs if you consider those to be cons. Pros would be the fact you can launch at whatever rpm you set it to, and you can bounce of the rev limiter to look cool
So the 2 step system, are basically only for launching your car without too much wheel spin & to prevent overrev, right?

Thanks man ;P
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 08:53 AM
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Yes. Being able to keep the RPMs at a specific number makes launching the car a little easier.
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 10:26 AM
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http://www.hrtuning.com/forum/viewfo...e0dcf4cb24c9ec
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 10:30 AM
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Default Re: 2 Step Launch/Launch Control?

Yeah. You're still in the wrong forum though.
Engine Management and Tuning
Crome, NepTune, Hondata, AEM, MOTEC

And I'm guessing you don't own a Civic either.
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 4thgen DragLude
Sorry to ask a question on honda form.. only forum pertaining to neptunes launch control. If you don't know or don't have it , Why respond.
This site is broken down into subject-specific forums for the benefit of everyone. In the future, please take care to post your question in the most appropriate forum, or your posts may be removed.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 4thgen DragLude
Sorry to ask a question on honda form.. only forum pertaining to neptunes launch control. If you don't know or don't have it , Why respond.
Thats how that guy is, probably why he has 15k posts, he would rather say some stupid sly comment about everything he reads, that is no help to anyone so he can sit by his computer and pretend he knows whats hes talking about. Its all goood
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 07:58 AM
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And just to put my 2 cents in ! . The 2 step / 1 step / launch control, if you are in a all motor car than ya post 2 is correct, prevent from over reving and looking cool, not at all good for the motor because chances are your ecu is cutting spark to make it do that. As for the traction part of it, thats all in your right foot. ha a ghetto 2 step has nothing to do with it. 2 step and launch control are only useful for forced induction applications. To build boost befor launch. Coming out of the hole with boost, or coming out without it, the diffrence is obvious.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 4thgen DragLude
on the top of page it says Engine Management launch control.. I'm confused, where would you post questions about launch control and engine management?
Your post got MOVED to this section after I reported it for being in the wrong place. You posted up in the Civic forum and wanted to get indignant when that was pointed out to you. Contrary to what you think you can't post anywhere that you feel like.
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Thats how that guy is, probably why he has 15k posts, he would rather say some stupid sly comment about everything he reads, that is no help to anyone so he can sit by his computer and pretend he knows whats hes talking about. Its all goood
He jacked an old thread in the Civic forum when he had a Prelude and asking about engine management issues because no one at HRTuning was answering him fast enough. I gave him the link to this forum and he wanted to smart off. Speak to what you know.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 08:16 AM
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Default Re: 2 Step Launch/Launch Control?

What?
http://www.hrtuning.com/forum/viewfo...5adbba233af5c2
This IS the Neptune forum over at HRTuning. Much better suited to answer your questions than some of the functioning illiterates that populate this one. Half the posts are directly answered by the guys over at HRTuning and they respond pretty fast. Funny to not see your issue posted IN the Neptune section.

I run Neptune on a boosted platform for which a 2-step is more suited to. Running it All Motor just indicates that you need more seat time and not electronic trickery.

And the name calling? Pretty juvenile. Also, it's a public forum.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 08:26 AM
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well put. turbo your car, junk the neptune, get Hondata !
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 08:39 AM
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This sounds like your post over at HRTuning. Looks like plenty of responses.
http://www.hrtuning.com/forum/viewto...launch+control
If you're just looking to try and compare MAPs chances are that isn't gonna happen because No two setups are the same.

Everytime the OP in that thread asked how to do something he was directed to another resource whereupon he claimed he just didn't understand and wanted someone to do some hand holding.

You asked this same question regarding launch control and were told the following.
You'll have to change the settings and see what your engine likes. There are no presets that will work for everyone so I have no suggestions for you. You're clearly bogging the engine down if it takes that long to recover.
And looking at the thread you are running P28 basemaps? On a built H-series?
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 08:48 AM
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I told him to try hitting the 2-step with less throttle and also try a higher RPM to see how the engine reacts. He's yet to come back with any details of how either of those worked out for him.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 08:52 AM
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I told him to try hitting the 2-step with less throttle and also try a higher RPM to see how the engine reacts. He's yet to come back with any details of how either of those worked out for him.
Funny. He jacked two threads over here and claimed no one was answering him.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by jdmhondak9
well put. turbo your car, junk the neptune, get Hondata !
Good luck with that
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 09:06 AM
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i dont need luck i run 400hp daily driven. i drive 100 miles to the track pound on my car and drive home and go to work the next day. thanks for the luck i might need it when i run the meth.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 09:08 AM
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 4thgen DragLude
no I don't want answers I wanted to talk to someone running about same setup.. no hand holding.. and Ya when you load neptune there is no p13 to load maps from so I wasn't sure so I asked him, he told me to run a GSR map to start with. If there is no p13 to choose from I had to choose something. Once again you have posted no real info and have wasted all of our time typing... thanks grumpy you're so knowledgeable.
Wait! You said no one was answering you over at the HRTuning forums!

My point was that you were already told what to do on another forum and have not done it so you came here to get an answer you want to hear. Doesn't work that way.

Help yourself by talking the advice over at HRTuning and stop trying to get quick and easy answers.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 09:19 AM
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quick and easy answers. sorry I was trying to educate my self on how it works not guessing and changing numbers that I don't know what they are doing.... Not all of us have a throw away civic, where if it blows up we can just get another block for 300$
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 09:22 AM
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What can I help you understand about the 2-Step Engagement RPM setting?
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 09:23 AM
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I want to know what the number and options are doing when I change them not just changing numbers till something happens. that's not how smart people make choices. They ask questions and try to learn new system before customizing it all, Learning is more then changing a number and saying your a tuner. I want to know what the actual options and numbers change. what they represent. Sorry that I really want to understand this. I'm not a some ricer kid that trys boosting some d motor and blows it up... I would like to know how the software works and what all the variables mean.. in the future I will try not to educate myself so much that it makes you uncomfortable..
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 09:25 AM
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HRtungin you're great you've helped me a lot. grumpy is a moron though sorry i posted in a civic forum.. I needed help new to this website get over it... HRtuning I will post post you a few more question when I get to my car. once again Hr you've been great. I just didn't want to bug you with tons of questions... Thank you Hrtuning you've helped a ton...
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 09:27 AM
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Alright. No problem.
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