<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by friscorep &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... its pretty god damn fun when you hit a turn fast, smoked the tires and made every little peckerwood on the street stop what they are doing and stare.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wow, doing it on the street. Great mentality!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">have you guys ever even been to a drift event? **** is fun as hell to watch, lots of energy. my advice is to not talk **** about something you have only seen in car magazines and in dumb videos. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Sadly, I have... it was attached to a race that I participated in. There were 30-40 of them, and about 9/10 of the drifters just fish-tailed it around a course of cones, didn't go anywhere near where they were trying to, spun out, tried to make it cool by doing donuts, and then stalled their car... just sitting out there, cranking on it for a minute or two, having a hell of a time getting it started again. The other 1/10 of them at least knew to put the clutch in when you spin, and that donuts are lame.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Weston &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fun to watch, maybe. Skill, no. </TD></TR></TABLE>

BULLSHIT
Drifting take a HELL of alot of skill to do properley. you have obviously never tried it, or watched anyone who knows what they are doing. its not as simple as just standing on the gas and turning the wheel. there is alot of **** going on that people on the outside of the car never see. the best drifters in the world have a VERY good looking racing resume so you cannot say it dosent take skill...

i really try to stay out of these threads but its hard because theres so much stupid **** that is said in here.

heres my disclaimer: drifting is not racing. it never will be, it is a rolling car show with smoke, noise and lots of carnage. i will never ever say it is better or faster than racing. im not your typical 17 year old poser, so please dont think im just some bandwagon jumping bitch. along with the people who really drift, most are in their early/mid 20's. im not talking about the dumbasses doing this **** on the street. im talking sanctioned event on a racetrack. i was one of those 240 owners who said i would never drift, never get into it. road racing is better, its racing, faster, bla bla bla. till i rode with a buddy and he went sideways going straight, going straight. since then ive been hooked and realized how difficult it is to do and how rewarding it can be to pull it off.

now down to business. why? why drift? personally i drift because its a great form of car control. ive spent more time on the ragged edge of traction and going over that edge than ANY amatuer road racer will ever see more than likley in their entire career. I, like most advanced drifters, see the correlation between grip and drifting. sure they may look like complete opposites but they are not. doing both has helped be become better at each other. grip driving teaches the proper line, how to be fast, etc, drifting teaches how to recover, what to do in panic situations, etc. Why does that matter? well lets say at a HPDE you are pushing the limits, 100%. you will make mistakes, you will go off. you will be punished for doing that, i.e. black flag. sit a session, etc. so losing control or being at the EDGE of traction is a very rare ocurrance so there is little experience as a driver for what to do. now drifting exploits that edge of control and there is no punishment for losing control provided you arent reckless. so you learn what to do in out of control situations, how the car reacts spinning out, going off, etc.

drifting is also a hell of alot of fun, i will always be a road racing fan, i run very regular HPDE's along with drift events, and will continue to do both because they are both fun. but drifting is always more fun (except actual RACING). theres nothing like comming around a corner sideways at 80mph, seeing 300 people on the wall snapping pictures. this is local **** at amatuer events too. none of this formula D competition "drift racing" BS.


anyway, theres my rant.

cliffs: all drifters arent posers. the good ones usually have a seasoned road racing background and continue to do it. its a great way to learn the limits without fear of repercussion unlike road racing where you are punished for pushing to 100% and losing control


Modified by Kamin at 3:50 PM 12/27/2005

 

If you think NASCAR is dumb, try going 200+ mph about 2 inches from someone's bumper. A lot of NASCAR drivers do race other cars and are pretty darn good at it. Robby Gordon has won numerous off road races. Tony Stewart usually ends up driving at the 24 hrs at Daytona. Same with Jr and a whole host of others.

 

I'd much rather watch rally than professional drifting. At least there's a point to it. Though i must say, rhys millen's (sp) driving in the dukes of hazzard was pretty impressive/stylish/funny. WHAT'S THE MEANING OF THIS CIRCLE

 

OMG?? you dont watch Initial D????????????????

 

it may be fun, it may take skill, but its not racing is it? correct me if im wrong. so there is no point in one car being faster then the other.

 

Everyone likes a little powerslide, e-brake 180 or donut every once in awhile. I just have no concept how you would want to spend so much money and time perfecting your drift. But I'm not gonna complain, if they have the money and time and desire, then do it.
I'll complain if they call it racing, but as long as they don't bother me, or crash into my house, then I'm fine.