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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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When I shift, I take my foot completly off the gas. I've heard other people leave it on about half way or 75%, what is the point of this? Is it so that you can go full throttle a little quicker? Doing this would cause your revs to rise, and have farther to fall to the next shift, would this affect the speed that the gear catches?

Power Shifting falls into the same category. It makes sense if you have a aftermarket clutch that can grab real quick. For my 1-2 shift, by the time i'm full throttle, my OEM clutch has caught and brought it down to the right rpm's. However for 2-3, and 3-4 shift, I can definatly see the point of it.
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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watch fast and furious... it teaches u all u need to know
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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hahahaha. yeah, double clutching as an upshifting technique, that's hillarious!
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 05:21 AM
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when i'm shifting fast, i don't even have the time to lift throttle all the way. i managed to bring shifting down to like when you drive an automatic. you almost won't feel the short loss of power on the drivetrain. synchro's start complaining though
and if your clutch takes so long to catch up, is'nt it worn?
sometimes powershifting is not advised, when you have traction isseus in the next gear you don't want to powershift hard, just as smooth as possible.

this might sound a bit confusing, but practice at shifting fast, even on the streets (don't have to rev high to practice) and you will understand . this is with a d-series hydro tranny, i don't have exp. with cable
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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i think i am letting off of the gas completely, but it happens so fast i dont think i am actually coming all the way off. watch for yourself:
http://www.sportcompacttuning....t.wmv

*please disregard the 14.6 on the wideband. the sensor finally died after 3 years of fat abuse*


Modified by boostedcivicsir at 10:20 PM 6/6/2006
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 09:38 AM
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Yea, i'm probably not lifting all the way off either. Your right, it is so fast...it would be hard to tell. It's like brooooooooo...ba..brooooooo. like split second type of thing.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 09:41 AM
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Jeeez man your wicked fast!!! I don't know if i could do it that fast...the 5th gen has longish throws. I definatly need more practice...thanks :-)
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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the gearspeed carbon syncros helped alot also.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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that's some nice shifting, sure no [F&F]grannyshifting[/F&F] there

but that's what i meant precisionelite with fast shifting, you won't even have the time to fully lift. FTS (Full Throttle Shifting) is nice to, but then you need a proper ecu (mine will come in time).

boostedcivicsir, will the carbon synchros allow you to shift faster or are they just more durable?

BTW boostedcivicsir, is that your A/F gauge at the left, because during the run it stays on 14.6
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedcivicsir &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the gearspeed carbon syncros helped alot also.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wolve &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that's some nice shifting, sure no [F&F]grannyshifting[/F&F] there

but that's what i meant precisionelite with fast shifting, you won't even have the time to fully lift. FTS (Full Throttle Shifting) is nice to, but then you need a proper ecu (mine will come in time).

boostedcivicsir, will the carbon synchros allow you to shift faster or are they just more durable?

BTW boostedcivicsir, is that your A/F gauge at the left, because during the run it stays on 14.6 </TD></TR></TABLE>

the sensor is dead, and when it dies it is solid 14.6-7. they were between 10.8 and 11.4 on the dyno the night before. plugs looked great, not worried. hpfreaks camethrough, but i couldnt get a sensor delivered to atco, he hee in time, but i do now have a new sensor.

the syncros arent stronger, i dont think, but they do allow the shifts to happen alot faster. thats one of the best investments i made on the build this time around.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 02:24 PM
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I love them so much....I have them in both of my cars...even the daily low booster! They aren't stronger just improved...The carbon material acts as a braking material and helps stop the gear faster
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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Thanks for all the replies. So the job of the syncros is to slow down the gears. The faster they can do it, the faster your next gear will catch. I always thought the syncros were for speeding up the gears(i.e. no rev match downshift).
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 12:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by precisionelite &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I always thought the syncros were for speeding up the gears(i.e. no rev match downshift).
-Greg P</TD></TR></TABLE>

in most situation that's there function, but then again, when you are shifting that fast you're not doing what most people do daily driving . so it's very convienient that it works both ways

thank god we don't have to double clutch anymore like way back, very fast shifting would be a pain in the but
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