<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPARK RACING INC. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All about the LCONN engineering Traction Bars the Best on the Market by Far </TD></TR></TABLE>

i've never heard off them. Do you have any more info about why they are the best?

 

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i've never heard off them. Do you have any more info about why they are the best?</TD></TR></TABLE>


I have never heard of them as well.....i tried a search on the internet and came up empty handed.....i realling wanting to get a set of bars....but when someone says a different brand i would like to more about it....like price...fitment

 

a little info about ours...they weigh in at 11.0lbs and have a FOS (factor of safety) of 3.2. basically they are 3.2 times stronger than they need to be. also, the loads used during this parts analysis were much greater than most if not all street car situations...they were based on our HotRod / Pro 4 Cyl 2000 Civic Si .

screen shot of the FEA analysis on the traction bar

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Full-Race Javier &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
screen shot of the FEA analysis on the traction bar</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats what I like about full-race. Emphasis on engineering.

 

were these loads calculated or taken from a strain guage? Either way what force did you come up with?

 

Are there any bars that will work with my SI?

 

i got a Z10's they are nice and good!!

 

so far full race is the only one that i haven't read that has twisted or tweaked the car and suspension even though i sent them all my info and they haven't called me back

 

I like these ones. i got them for my own car

 

Ok, so every traction bar has a horizontal bar and 2 other bars that go to the lower control arm. Lets compare the angles. Looks at this picture:


What are the different angles you guys are measuring for angle A and what brand?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 88CRXHybrid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">were these loads calculated or taken from a strain guage? Either way what force did you come up with?</TD></TR></TABLE>

they were calculated/analyzed for worst case scenarios...it's highly unlikely that a street car will even be subjected to these situations.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are there any bars that will work with my SI?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes, we do offer traction bars for your car

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ALLvtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so far full race is the only one that i haven't read that has twisted or tweaked the car and suspension even though i sent them all my info and they haven't called me back </TD></TR></TABLE>
email todd@full-race.com, he will answer any questions you have

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Full-Race Javier &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
email todd@full-race.com, he will answer any questions you have
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thats funny we have the same name

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by camp1320.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I like these ones. i got them for my own car </TD></TR></TABLE>

NICE BARS WERE YOU GET THOSES

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Full-Race Javier &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> 3.2 times stronger than what they should be.</TD></TR></TABLE>


On your website site it say's 5 times.


Hey tom.. WHEN IN THE HELL IS UR WEBSITE GOING TO BE UP!!!!!! lol looking foward to do buisness with ya.

 

thats a typo, the ef and da bars have a FOS of 5. the eg, ek, and dc bars dont need to be as strong since there is a factory designed bar fastened to the control arm from the factory.

 

Angles? Anyone? Its not like its a big secret and you can't just go out and measure them. I'll post what MB's are after the weekend when I go out to my car.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ranta18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Angles? Anyone? Its not like its a big secret and you can't just go out and measure them. I'll post what MB's are after the weekend when I go out to my car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Even if two brands have the same angles, do they have the same mounting point?

 

They should all mount at the same place on the lower control arm for the Civic's.

 

im thinking im going to go with the full-race set up....but still undecided.....

 

if you work at a place with the word "engineering" in the name, i hope you either ARE an engineer, or can consult with an engineer. The angle you want means nothing.

 

Out of all the bars...which ones actually fit h22 eg's?

 

Full Race bars DO fit h22 in eg

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Full-Race Geoff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Full Race bars DO fit h22 in eg</TD></TR></TABLE>
Cool, ill be ordering some from you very soon then

 

As do MB bars. I have them.

I asked for the angle for my own personal reasons. There are many different engineering fields, and some involve different things than statics and strength of materials.


Modified by ranta18 at 1:43 PM 7/19/2004

 

well, fyi, in order to help you out and save a lot of time, that angle does not matter.