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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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Any of you guys out there using a staging brake?
would like to know some for info on them like

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3.performance.

GETTING TIRED OF USING THE E BRAKE.

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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 04:40 PM
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Just curious but are you planning on using one on a race or street car? Takes a bungee cord to make it an E-brake as it won't stay locked.
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 04:41 PM
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haha good one adam, i wouldnt use a staging break on a street car, unless its 95% race and 5% street
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 04:44 PM
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lol NOOOOOO

RACE CAR ONLY
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 04:49 PM
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haha okay cool just checking. They're pretty basic to setup. First off you'll have to cap your stock brake lines running to the rear. Mount the staging brake itself wherever it fits and for what is comfortable. Then you just need to run a line to the rear and T it into each brake. Simple as that and they do work well.
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 04:52 PM
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Sounds pretty basic! got any pics from inside the car Bud?

There really tall right?
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 04:56 PM
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I do have some pics but they're actually not on this computer so I can't load them up right now. I'll PM them to you just as soon as I do tho and yea, they are pretty tall.
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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NICE Thanks Bro
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 07:14 PM
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How much pressure does the stage break have? 150-200psi? I know it is not lots like a regular system.
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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The cylinder diamter will determine how much pressure it will make with a given effort. It's a normal master cylinder, it'll make plenty of pressure. I know for a fact you can make over 1000psi...
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 01:52 PM
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Can't you make the staging brake run inline with the stock lines so you can still use the rear brakes while slowing down after a run?
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 01:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by msmotorsports &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can't you make the staging brake run inline with the stock lines so you can still use the rear brakes while slowing down after a run?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 02:08 PM
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Maybe there's a way, never done it that way tho using some kind of check valve? I'm sure Tony would know for sure!
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 02:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by msmotorsports &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can't you make the staging brake run inline with the stock lines so you can still use the rear brakes while slowing down after a run?</TD></TR></TABLE>

That staging brake is designed to run inline, since it has no fluid reservoir.

Its kind of difficult to attach one of these to a tandem brake system. You would have to tee both rear brake lines together coming out of the proportioning valve, run that line into the brake, then tee them back out to each rear brake line. This works but it kinda makes the tandem brake system useless.

BTW I have one of these for sale, used only about a month.... I'll take $80 shipped

Rob
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LS_REX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That staging brake is designed to run inline, since it has no fluid reservoir.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Damn, I didn't even notice that.
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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Oh, I have seen one of these used to control a seperated rear braking system...they just used a small reservoir on the suction side of the cylinder.
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 06:39 PM
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We are using one on our Turbo 4 car.

I made all new stainless brake lines for the whole system. There are 2 ports on the master cyl. Use one for the front brakes (T'ed to each side). Use the other to run to a prop. valve then to the staging brake then T'ed to each side in the rear. Get a Autometer gauge and put it after the staging so you know how much psi you can drag in to lights and stage. It takes some getting use to.

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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 07:08 PM
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thats what it has do to be nhra legal <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by msmotorsports &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can't you make the staging brake run inline with the stock lines so you can still use the rear brakes while slowing down after a run?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 06:13 AM
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I don't believe a staging brake is legal for NHRA SFWD. It's been discussed before.

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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 06:29 AM
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This is right from CNC's website. It's reversed for RWD cars, since obviously then need it the other way.


Here's one place to get them....

http://www.cbperformance.com/c...D=933

Some of you street car guys may want to run he horizontal handle type, so you don't have a big lever sticking up in the middle of the car.
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 07:19 AM
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This looks like a RWD configuration?


The problem that I have seen, is that tying into the brake pedal like that will cause the front end to dive and the rear tires lock up since the weight is being lifted off of the rear due to braking. Sometimes even popping the tire and causing a crash. There have been some talk that NHRA was suppose to clear up the rule on the way this is connected.
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 07:53 AM
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use a proportioning valve<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by regamaster &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This looks like a RWD configuration?


The problem that I have seen, is that tying into the brake pedal like that will cause the front end to dive and the rear tires lock up since the weight is being lifted off of the rear due to braking. Sometimes even popping the tire and causing a crash. There have been some talk that NHRA was suppose to clear up the rule on the way this is connected. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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