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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by littlebluecrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Why would you turn that post into a personal attack? Both post have useful info, but you have just flat out acted like your opinion is the only one that maters....
11.1 @130 is great , 250 passes on stock tranny and axles is cool too, you could do the same with a lsd so whats your point.
Why turn your answer into a soap box sermon just be nice no need to be a dick.

I race I have used both, and I know for a fact that a lsd is more safe, than spool. Hand's down , do you need to know my racing resume to value my opinion...
Or do you to tell us something else that makes your opinion matter more than some one elses's?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not being a dick and my opinion is no more valuable than anyone elses......as long as it's true! I think his information was flat wrong and it seems he doesn't have any logical information to back his claim. What he described is physically impossible. It sounds like he's full of **** so I responded with real world application of the truth. Why would you let him mislead people when you seem to be so concerned about safety? By the way how is one more safe than another? The difference between the units is in the performance and cost and both spool and LSD should be equally "safe". I've never heard of a spool breaking until this thread. Axles and gearsets more often break before spools.

I don't give a rip about your resume as long as you don't post bullshit. If your opinion is based in fact and not fantasy then I'll give you all the respect you deserve. If your lying to people then I'll call you a liar.

Why are you jumping my ****, jack? Am I wrong or have I just hurt your feelings too?
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 07:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by racergti &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I'm not being a dick and my opinion is no more valuable than anyone elses......as long as it's true! I think his information was flat wrong and it seems he doesn't have any logical information to back his claim. What he described is physically impossible. It sounds like he's full of **** so I responded with real world application of the truth. Why would you let him mislead people when you seem to be so concerned about safety? By the way how is one more safe than another? The difference between the units is in the performance and cost and both spool and LSD should be equally "safe". I've never heard of a spool breaking until this thread. Axles and gearsets more often break before spools.

I don't give a rip about your resume as long as you don't post bullshit. If your opinion is based in fact and not fantasy then I'll give you all the respect you deserve. If your lying to people then I'll call you a liar.

Why are you jumping my ****, jack? Am I wrong or have I just hurt your feelings too?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No feelings hurt here jack... Look at your self for jumping into things....

You must have not seen cars hit walls at etown when an axle breaks, you must have not been hit from behind when an axle broke on a competitors car,both instances with spools.You must have never snaped an axle at the line with an lsd and not gone any where ? Both instances with a spool caused the driver to lose control, when when drive wheel got all the power. Not an issue with an lsd. The problem is not the spool breaking, the problem is when an axle breaks, and all the power goes to the opposite wheel making the car extremely hard to keep straight, and can cause major issues for people not ready for it.
There for your opinion is flat wrong and you are being a dick they way you are presenting your point. I did not realise you were a physics major, a guess physics dont apply to 11 second vw's
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 07:56 PM
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Jason is definitly right about the safety aspect. I went with a spool purely because of price and because I dont value my safety I will say definitly do not get a spool unless you have a good axle setup. I also drive my car around on the street with a spool and its really not a pain in the *** as long as there is air in the tires.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 03:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boner_Ben &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.....I also drive my car around on the street with a spool and its really not a pain in the *** as long as there is air in the tires. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hmm, I tried to drive my old car with a spool in it on the street and thought it was terribly unsafe. I could feel the inside tire scrubbing around every corner, and eventually the CV cracked on the drivers side, because of the difference in turning radii between the two tires during a turn. I switched back to an LSD after that lesson learned. I never had a problem with a spool at the track, but I also never had an axle break with a spool either.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 05:53 AM
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My post was purely my opinion from my experiences working on some fast front wheel drive cars. My post started out “I would recommend running a LSD” it didn’t start out saying you should only run and LSD. Than the post finishes with “I wouldn’t run a spool” I at no point ever said that people should run an LSD or the shouldn’t run a spool. I was just giving my opinion and some examples of what I have seen happen in the past years. I never claimed to know everything from anything. Nor did I clam that my word was gospel.

Yes a spool is a very strong piece of equipment. But for you to think they don’t break is very closed minded. I guess you just haven’t made enough power yet to break it. But than again what would I know. According to you I do not have any real world experience and I only sit at home reading Magazines.

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What he described is physically impossible. It sounds like he's full of **** so I responded with real world application of the truth. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You know this for a fact do you? Everything I posted was from real world experience. So if that is being full of **** than I guess I am full of ****. Or maybe you just haven't made enough power to start breaking parts.



<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by racergti &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I don't give a rip about your resume as long as you don't post bullshit. If your opinion is based in fact and not fantasy then I'll give you all the respect you deserve. If your lying to people then I'll call you a liar.

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I don’t know what I every did to **** you off. But maybe if you would look at things with more of an open mind you might learn a couple things. Would it be far for me to sit here and call you a liar. No it wouldn’t so I will not do it. I do not know you at all nor do I know what kind of racing you do. Please sit back and reevaluate your view on where others opinions might be coming from. In the long run it might make you a better racer. I do not want or need your respect. You have quite and ego if you think I want or need your respect,


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Why are you jumping my ****, jack? Am I wrong or have I just hurt your feelings too?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Don’t flatter yourself You didn’t hurt my feelings.

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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 06:20 AM
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I was going to write some smartass retort but I'm not interested in arguing anymore.

To those I've offended, I apologize for rubbing you the wrong way. I'll certainly have an open mind to others opinions in the future.

To the readers, do what you want. It seems there are some varied opinions on this subject so take what applies to your specific needs and go with it.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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I bought a CircuitWorx spool because it was cheaper than a LSD. I kinda wish I had a LSD now. Turning my 85 CRX HF (lightest Honda out there as far as I know) is a PITA, especially trying to get lined up in the staging lanes. My motor is stock for now so I'm not too worried about breaking axles at this point. I will say make sure you have a FIRM grip on your steering wheel at ALL TIMES!!! One of the first burnouts on 8x13x23 M&H slicks and the left side hooked hard out of the water box and it pulled me over towards the wall really hard and fast. Also had an alingment problem (badly toed in) at that time too, so I don't know if that was why or not. It has never done that since I got an alignment.

I'd say if you can, get a LSD. I however will probably stick with my spool until it scares the poo out of me. I'm cheap too.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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I've used both. No difference in 60'. Spool is much cheaper. I never broke an axle mid track, always on the burnout, launch, or 1-2 shift, so being ready for it wasn't really an issue. If it's a full drag car, put a spool in it. If you EVER plan on driving this thing through a drive through or in a parking lot, do an lsd.
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