Drag Racing Drag Racing (legal) & Associated Topics

SFWD TECH QUESTION

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 07:53 AM
  #1  
9SECQTR's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 9,000
Likes: 0
From: Wappingers Falls, ny, usa
Default SFWD TECH QUESTION

can i run carbon fenders and hatch lid or not or will there be a weight penelty???
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 08:12 AM
  #2  
86si's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,526
Likes: 0
From: Hyde Park, NY, USA
Default Re: SFWD TECH QUESTION (9SECQTR)

MIN. WIEGHT IS 2300 W/1POWER ADDER AND 2400 W/2,HOOD IS OK NOT SURE ON FENDERS AND HATCH
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 10:51 AM
  #3  
Group Tenacity's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,473
Likes: 0
From: Lompoc, Ca., USA
Default Re: SFWD TECH QUESTION (86si)

I beleve to run in NHRA, the hatch can not be C/F. I dont noe about the fenders.. My guess would be that its ok, since i seen some cars running fiberglass fenders..

Mike...

Reply
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 11:04 AM
  #4  
SIXTYdashONE's Avatar
HT's Biggest Loser
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 16,769
Likes: 1
From: n00 Jersey, USA
Default Re: SFWD TECH QUESTION (Group Tenacity)

Im almost positive you can run carbon fiber/fiberglass fenders and trunklid...
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 12:42 PM
  #5  
Group Tenacity's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,473
Likes: 0
From: Lompoc, Ca., USA
Default Re: SFWD TECH QUESTION (SIXTYdashONE)

I was told by NHRA tech that the trunk lid / hatch have to be factory.. That dont mean NDRA or IDRC is the same way..
as for fenders, like i said above, i dont noe if its ok.. best bet is contact NHRA or what ever series you plan on running and ask them...

Mike...

Reply
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 01:30 PM
  #6  
GOLDMEMBER's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,048
Likes: 0
From: NORTHRIDGE, CA, USA
Default Re: SFWD TECH QUESTION (Group Tenacity)

i was told carbon trunklid is okay and carbon fenders are not allowed?>lets see if thomas can tell us.
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 01:42 PM
  #7  
Finest's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 4,887
Likes: 0
From: Milwaukee, WI
Default Re: SFWD TECH QUESTION (GOLDMEMBER)

I think the problem with a FG/CF hatch lid is that you need to run lexan for the rear window (Lexan is prohibited, right?) I wouldn't think running straight OEM glass on a FG/CF hatch is safe? How would it be secured?

But FG/CF TRUNK lids are fine, as long as they are latched securely like a hood. It's just the HATCH that poses a problem. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 02:26 PM
  #8  
bomber's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 840
Likes: 0
From: Portland, OR, USA
Default Re: SFWD TECH QUESTION (Finest)

"Lightweight body panels limited to hood, fenders and deck lid."

So..
Fenders
Hatch

Rulebook: http://www.nhrasportcompact.co...s.pdf
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 02:53 PM
  #9  
9SECQTR's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 9,000
Likes: 0
From: Wappingers Falls, ny, usa
Default Re: SFWD TECH QUESTION (bomber)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Finest &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think the problem with a FG/CF hatch lid is that you need to run lexan for the rear window (Lexan is prohibited, right?) I wouldn't think running straight OEM glass on a FG/CF hatch is safe? How would it be secured? </TD></TR></TABLE>

it is bolted on the roof with a hinge

is there a weight penalty?
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 03:25 PM
  #10  
86si's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,526
Likes: 0
From: Hyde Park, NY, USA
Default Re: SFWD TECH QUESTION (9SECQTR)

again,min. is 2300and 2400
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 03:27 PM
  #11  
Finest's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 4,887
Likes: 0
From: Milwaukee, WI
Default Re: SFWD TECH QUESTION (9SECQTR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 9SECQTR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

it is bolted on the roof with a hinge

is there a weight penalty?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The hatch is hinged, but what about the GLASS? You're not thinking about using the OEM glass lining to hold it in place, do you? I don't think it'll be able to support the weight of the glass, unlike aluminum/steel should.

And no, heh heh There shouldn't be a "weight penalty" for trying to shed some weight. LOL! Only power adders/aftermarket transmission incur a weight penalty. As long as you make minimum weight, you'll be fine.
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 03:27 PM
  #12  
9SECQTR's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 9,000
Likes: 0
From: Wappingers Falls, ny, usa
Default Re: SFWD TECH QUESTION (86si)

i know what the min weight requirements are but i am asking if i can run in the class with a carbon trunk or not or will i be assesed a weight penalty for having the trunk

(weight penalty or not able to run period?)
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 03:31 PM
  #13  
SIXTYdashONE's Avatar
HT's Biggest Loser
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 16,769
Likes: 1
From: n00 Jersey, USA
Default Re: SFWD TECH QUESTION (bomber)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bomber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"Lightweight body panels limited to hood, fenders and deck lid."

So..
Fenders
Hatch

]</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is an exact quote from the rulebook. BUT isnt a deck lid a trunk lid??
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 04:20 PM
  #14  
86si's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,526
Likes: 0
From: Hyde Park, NY, USA
Default Re: SFWD TECH QUESTION (9SECQTR)

I don't think there is such a thing as a penalty for weight,if anything you wouldn't be aloud to run.Like Ron said i think a trunk lid and deck lid are the same so i think it would pass
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 04:26 PM
  #15  
bomber's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 840
Likes: 0
From: Portland, OR, USA
Default Re: SFWD TECH QUESTION (SIXTYdashONE)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIXTYdashONE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

This is an exact quote from the rulebook. BUT isnt a deck lid a trunk lid??</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea trunk lids are ok, but I dont think deck lid = hatch.

Reply
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 06:03 PM
  #16  
SIXTYdashONE's Avatar
HT's Biggest Loser
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 16,769
Likes: 1
From: n00 Jersey, USA
Default Re: SFWD TECH QUESTION (bomber)

Referee, can we get a ruling on that one?
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 06:06 PM
  #17  
99blackcivicSi's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,532
Likes: 1
From: Alexandria, Va, USA
Default Re: SFWD TECH QUESTION (SIXTYdashONE)

As far as Nissan is concerned a Deck lid is a trunk lid, and that is how i have always known it as well
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 06:09 PM
  #18  
SIXTYdashONE's Avatar
HT's Biggest Loser
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 16,769
Likes: 1
From: n00 Jersey, USA
Default Re: SFWD TECH QUESTION (99blackcivicSi)

Im still pretty confident they allow fiberglass trunklids.. ask Steve Lockett
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 06:18 PM
  #19  
bomber's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 840
Likes: 0
From: Portland, OR, USA
Default Re: SFWD TECH QUESTION (SIXTYdashONE)

I still vote trunklid ok, hatch not.

Reply
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 06:24 PM
  #20  
SIXTYdashONE's Avatar
HT's Biggest Loser
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 16,769
Likes: 1
From: n00 Jersey, USA
Default Re: SFWD TECH QUESTION (bomber)

Lets shoot for it......... Odds or Evens....?
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 06:29 PM
  #21  
9SECQTR's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 9,000
Likes: 0
From: Wappingers Falls, ny, usa
Default Re: SFWD TECH QUESTION (SIXTYdashONE)

evens (if thats for c.f. hatch being ok)
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 06:30 PM
  #22  
9SECQTR's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 9,000
Likes: 0
From: Wappingers Falls, ny, usa
Default Re: SFWD TECH QUESTION (9SECQTR)

BTW... does anyone know where i can get a set of quarters for cheap??
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 08:26 PM
  #23  
wHOAlly's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,901
Likes: 0
From: JDM ricer land, CA
Default Re: SFWD TECH QUESTION (jerseykid609)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jerseykid609 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a trunk lid and a rear hatch or not that same to the people who thisthey are wrong. A lightweight lid ok, a hatch they will bump u in to hot rod. good luck SFWD only has only one weight adding rule and thats for 2 power adders. trust me saving that extra 10 lbs in your HATCH wont be needed so why bother?</TD></TR></TABLE>

well for ppl like me, i already have a cf hatch just cuz i like the way it looks and is my street car/daily driver, and if i raced i would be in sportfwd, i dont see what the big deal is...how is a cf/fg trunk allowed and not a hatch?
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 09:41 PM
  #24  
UltRaH22's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,480
Likes: 0
From: Dutchess County, NY, USA
Default Re: SFWD TECH QUESTION (Sp00n'd Supra)

hey how about not worrying about it and using the stock parts... only saving a few lbs. Drop the $ into the motor instead of carbon panels so u can keep up with me
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 09:56 PM
  #25  
wHOAlly's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,901
Likes: 0
From: JDM ricer land, CA
Default Re: SFWD TECH QUESTION (UltRaH22)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by UltRaH22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey how about not worrying about it and using the stock parts... only saving a few lbs. Drop the $ into the motor instead of carbon panels so u can keep up with me </TD></TR></TABLE>

your also asuming i havnt dropped the money into the motor already
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:10 PM.