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Old 01-17-2010, 06:59 AM
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I have tuned a few cars with the EFI wizard injectors over the last couple weeks and have had great success with them. 2 of the cars were on the 2000's and q16 and I saw no issues at all.[/QUOTE]

How do you thank they would do in a street/drag car. Is the driveably good or not.Would it idle less than 12-1af or what on the q16. Did it have good died time info with them.And yes i know that is a lot of inj. for a street car. But i did not say it was a dd.
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Looking forward to trying these out soon, have 4 different cars here that will be getting these injectors in the next couple weeks.
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Are the dead time sheets provided like the id's?
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Originally Posted by Bugermass
Does anyone know if a Motec has the ability to drive Piezo injectors? I searched around a bit and havn't found an anser yet..
looks like they are working on it for the M1 series ECU's
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Are the dead time sheets provided like the id's?
The ones I have received have come with data sheets along with Individual flow sheets and data for each injector along with every injector having its own #.
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looks like they are working on it for the M1 series ECU's
I thought the M1 supported "direct" injection, which isn't always piezo injectors....

Piezo gets injection cycle times down to about .1 to .2 mSec.
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The ones I have received have come with data sheets along with Individual flow sheets and data for each injector along with every injector having its own #.
Are the voltage characteristics similar to the ID's?
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Default Re: New injector upgrade EFI wizard 2000cc

With these kind of injectors what kind of Hp will the 1000's support?
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Default Re: New injector upgrade EFI wizard 2000cc

Originally Posted by miller
The ones I have received have come with data sheets along with Individual flow sheets and data for each injector along with every injector having its own #.

Good stuff thanks
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Default Re: New injector upgrade EFI wizard 2000cc

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Are the voltage characteristics similar to the ID's?
yes
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yes

Ok, how similar? I knew I should have been more specific. lol

Can you post the data sheets, please?
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What about the driveably of them for a street/drag car.
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interesting! I will be looking into these. I would like to get the 2000's so i won't have to run 8 injectors, but i want them to idle good too.

Anyone on here that sells these, could you pm me a price? They will be used on a b-series, so include clips, tophats, etc. As far as what i will need to run them.
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i would rather run 12 1000s might sound crazy but i have an idea.
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Default Re: New injector upgrade EFI wizard 2000cc

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why would any of us buy 2000ID injectors if we cant run c16 or higher with them?
they are a useless injector it seems to me.
does not make since .
They were marketed and released for those running E85/Alcohol...it wasn't discovered until after they were released though that they weren't compatible with fuel that contain MTBE.
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who ever manufactured them should of known that meth based fuels would not of worked due to metal/seals used. that should be common knowledge for someone that is manufacturing a product of that typ & deff size.
oh well glad i didnt buy them, lol
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still didnt really get an answer about the spray quality between a 1000vs2000cc injector, shouldent the 1000 atomize fuel better due to the smaller size?
atomize might not be the correct work but u get what im saying.
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Default Re: New injector upgrade EFI wizard 2000cc

Originally Posted by ALL IMPORT
who ever manufactured them should of known that meth based fuels would not of worked due to metal/seals used. that should be common knowledge for someone that is manufacturing a product of that typ & deff size.
oh well glad i didnt buy them, lol
they were made for alcohol/e85 fuels, thats not a problem

its mtbe thats the problem mtbe is not meth
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on an injector that can handle any type of fuel!
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Old 01-18-2010, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: New injector upgrade EFI wizard 2000cc

Just so you guys know.. Some Vehicles that use Piezo Injectors usually have external driver boxes. Use these boxes along with your MoTeC, I prefer Autronic , Ecu's...

I would only try a homogeneous mode install, not a stratified charge mode
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Default Re: New injector upgrade EFI wizard 2000cc

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Just so you guys know.. Some Vehicles that use Piezo Injectors usually have external driver boxes. Use these boxes along with your MoTeC, I prefer Autronic , Ecu's...

I would only try a homogeneous mode install, not a stratified charge mode
Is there even an "aftermarket" piezo injector?
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Default Re: New injector upgrade EFI wizard 2000cc

Originally Posted by miller
Is there even an "aftermarket" piezo injector?
Not sure of aftermarket, but there are a few OEM that use them in newer applications.... Mostly diesel from what I have seen
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Default Re: New injector upgrade EFI wizard 2000cc

I think bmw uses them in a few applications but that is all I know of in the gas world. I have read of them being able to operate under some exteme fuel pressures.

Either way, I tuned another car with these 2000cc injectors this morning on e85 and all went smoothly.
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