NDRA Chic class question
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NDRA Chic class question
Is the NDRA Nopi Chic class braket racing or heads ups?
Also isn't bracket racing based of how close you are to your dial in time,without going over, or still who hits the traps first.
I honestly don't know **** about braket racing
Havn't been able to get the NDRA rulebook PDF I have to work, and their sites been down.
Thanks a lot.
Also isn't bracket racing based of how close you are to your dial in time,without going over, or still who hits the traps first.
I honestly don't know **** about braket racing
Havn't been able to get the NDRA rulebook PDF I have to work, and their sites been down.
Thanks a lot.
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Re: NDRA Chic class question (275Performance)
The Nopi Chic class runs on a indexed .500 pro tree. Indexed racing is simply a fixed dial in category. EX- a driver makes 3 passes in her racecar, a 12.30,12.23,12.20 ets are recorded. The driver takes the quickest time of the 3 (12.20) and subtracts .10. This would make the drivers index(dial in) a 12.10for the week end. The .500 tree is just like the .400 pro tree. This means the driver will not see 3 sequetial yellow lights and then a green when the tree is activated. In this case the driver would see all 3 yellows at the same time, which means go, if You wait till green You will be late on the tree. The break out rule will be in effect.
Section 1 paragraph 9 NOPI CHIC
Section 1 paragraph 9 NOPI CHIC
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Re: NDRA Chic class question (sold9secteg)
Thanks a lot for the info 
So in braket racing, its not how fast you are, yet how consisent you are with your dail in time? Does the ET even matter in the class as long as its a consistent one?
Thanks again for the info.
So in braket racing, its not how fast you are, yet how consisent you are with your dail in time? Does the ET even matter in the class as long as its a consistent one?
Thanks again for the info.
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Re: NDRA Chic class question (sold9secteg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sold9secteg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No nothing really matters, except that You are very consistant</TD></TR></TABLE>
dont forget you have to be good on the tree!
its pretty much been covered, but heres a little something I wrote too;
http://www.kindleracing.com/classes.htm
dont forget you have to be good on the tree!
its pretty much been covered, but heres a little something I wrote too;
http://www.kindleracing.com/classes.htm
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Re: NDRA Chic class question (jdkindle)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdkindle »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
don't forget you have to be good on the tree!
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yea I figured that part
Wife's pretty good at the drop, only hinderance it that our Test N Tune night runs only the sequntial lights, not the pro set up tree
don't forget you have to be good on the tree!
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yea I figured that part
Wife's pretty good at the drop, only hinderance it that our Test N Tune night runs only the sequntial lights, not the pro set up tree
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Re: NDRA Chic class question (275Performance)
How To Drag Race
Bracket racing, or E.T. style racing is a great way to get into drag racing, on a relatively low budget. You don’t need a lot of money or special equipment to get started, but it helps to have an idea of what you’re doing before you get to the starting line.
Q: “What is Bracket Racing?”
Answer: A bracket race, is a drag race, a straight line contest of acceleration, usually between two cars. Usually the two cars start at different times, from a standing start, over a specified distance, usually a ¼ mile (1320 feet, 400 metres). Racers usually line up in front of a countdown device called a Christmas tree. When they leave the starting line, timers record how long it takes them to reach the finish line. This is called the Elapsed time or E.T. for short. Top speed during the race is also recorded this is referred to as the trap speed.
“Getting Started”
The best way to get a feel for all of this stuff, is to go out to the track, and give it a try on your own. That bring said, you should try and get out to a test and tune event. Most tracks offer them on a weekly basis. For a small fee, you can practice your starting line procedures; learn how the car will react to tuning changes, and make some passes down the track, without the pressures of racing someone for points. You should also take the time to talk to other more seasoned racers, to ask questions. Most regulars will be more than willing to help you out, in the beginning.
“Competition”
When you decide that you are ready to compete, and race against others for points, you can compete in a “Points Series”. The N.C.R.A. offers a new points series this year. You will be placed in a class against similar cars to your own, and based on your expected E.T. you will race in a bracket style race. Having the fastest car out there doesn’t matter in bracket or E.T style racing, consistency is key. You will need to determine how fast your car consistently runs. This is called your dial in time. (As a quick rule of thumb, lets say you have run a 14.10, a 14.15, and a 14.12 in your testing and tuning, you’d likely want to set your dial in at around 14.09) When you are paired up with another car, the dial-ins are compared, and the slower car is given a “head start” equal to the difference between the two cars dial-ins. To win, you want to run as close to your dial-in as possible (or equal to it) without going faster or “breaking out” . You can also win if both cars run faster than their dial-in (called running under) and you are closest to your dial in. If both of you get down the track exactly at your dial-in or have the same breakout, the driver, the driver who reacted quicker at the Christmas tree, called Reaction Time (or R/T) wins the race.
Here is a quick example:
Car A dials in 14.50 seconds
Car B dials in 15.25 seconds
Car A runs 14.55 seconds, Car B runs 15.35 seconds
Car A wins (runs closest to dial in without breaking out)
Car A runs 14.40 seconds
Car B runs 15.20 seconds
Car B wins (both cars run under and breakout but car B runs closest to dial in)
Car A runs 14.50 seconds with .525 R/T
Car B runs 15.25 seconds with .505 R/T
Car B wins (both cars run exactly at their dial-in, but Car B has a better R/T)
Now let’s take a look at the actual track, and what some of the things are that you see around you when you are there.
“The Burnout Box”
This is an area before the starting line that is slightly lower than the rest of the tracks surface is sprayed with water to make burnout easier. (A quick tip: Avoid the water if you are running regular treaded D.O.T. tires, the water will stay in the groves of your tires, and pool under them at the starting line, making traction even more difficult)
“The 60’ timer”
Measures the time it takes the car to cross the first 60 feet of the racetrack, This shows you how well the car is launching, which affects your elapsed times. Most street tired cars have a 60’ time around 2 seconds
“The 660’ timer”
The 660 foot mark is exactly half way down the ¼ mile. You E.T. is recorded here, as well as your speed. Some tracks also have timers at the 330, and 1000 foot intervals.
“The Christmas Tree”
Getting a good reaction time at the starting line (also known as ‘cutting a good light’) all starts at the Christmas tree. A ‘Good Light’ will give you a big advantage over your opponent, especially if you are running the slower car. In simple terms the tree is a set of vertically arranged lights the give you, the driver a visual countdown to the start of the race.
At the top of the tree you will see two sets of lights that look like light bulbs used in your house. When you advance to the starting line, you want to have both of these bulbs lit up. This will let you know that you are properly staged. You will also want to make sure that you leave both sets of lights lit up, until it is time to go. If you roll forward you will ‘red-light’ (we’ll get to that part in a second). Next you will see a set of three yellow lights referred to as the ‘countdown’ lights. These lights will light up, from top to bottom, in a sequential order (top, middle, bottom). Just below these is a green light, once the green light turns on, you will leave the starting line. If you leave before the green light is lit up, you will ‘red-light’ that’s the next light on the tree at the very bottom, if you leave before the green light is lit up, you will red-light, and therefore lose the race. Now with that being said, most drivers will leave the starting line, just as the last yellow light lights up. This will put your car in motion just as the green light lights up. You have to be very precise in doing this, as moving too early will result in a red light. If you leave too late your opponent will have a *** advantage over you, before the race has even begun.
Hopefully this little F.A.Q. will have answered some of your questions, and if you still have any, after reading this. Feel free to ask any of the event staff, or track staff, at your track. Also some of the “pro racers” will be more than willing to help you out as well.
GOOD LUCK!!
courtesy of National Compact Racing Association Canada
Bracket racing, or E.T. style racing is a great way to get into drag racing, on a relatively low budget. You don’t need a lot of money or special equipment to get started, but it helps to have an idea of what you’re doing before you get to the starting line.
Q: “What is Bracket Racing?”
Answer: A bracket race, is a drag race, a straight line contest of acceleration, usually between two cars. Usually the two cars start at different times, from a standing start, over a specified distance, usually a ¼ mile (1320 feet, 400 metres). Racers usually line up in front of a countdown device called a Christmas tree. When they leave the starting line, timers record how long it takes them to reach the finish line. This is called the Elapsed time or E.T. for short. Top speed during the race is also recorded this is referred to as the trap speed.
“Getting Started”
The best way to get a feel for all of this stuff, is to go out to the track, and give it a try on your own. That bring said, you should try and get out to a test and tune event. Most tracks offer them on a weekly basis. For a small fee, you can practice your starting line procedures; learn how the car will react to tuning changes, and make some passes down the track, without the pressures of racing someone for points. You should also take the time to talk to other more seasoned racers, to ask questions. Most regulars will be more than willing to help you out, in the beginning.
“Competition”
When you decide that you are ready to compete, and race against others for points, you can compete in a “Points Series”. The N.C.R.A. offers a new points series this year. You will be placed in a class against similar cars to your own, and based on your expected E.T. you will race in a bracket style race. Having the fastest car out there doesn’t matter in bracket or E.T style racing, consistency is key. You will need to determine how fast your car consistently runs. This is called your dial in time. (As a quick rule of thumb, lets say you have run a 14.10, a 14.15, and a 14.12 in your testing and tuning, you’d likely want to set your dial in at around 14.09) When you are paired up with another car, the dial-ins are compared, and the slower car is given a “head start” equal to the difference between the two cars dial-ins. To win, you want to run as close to your dial-in as possible (or equal to it) without going faster or “breaking out” . You can also win if both cars run faster than their dial-in (called running under) and you are closest to your dial in. If both of you get down the track exactly at your dial-in or have the same breakout, the driver, the driver who reacted quicker at the Christmas tree, called Reaction Time (or R/T) wins the race.
Here is a quick example:
Car A dials in 14.50 seconds
Car B dials in 15.25 seconds
Car A runs 14.55 seconds, Car B runs 15.35 seconds
Car A wins (runs closest to dial in without breaking out)
Car A runs 14.40 seconds
Car B runs 15.20 seconds
Car B wins (both cars run under and breakout but car B runs closest to dial in)
Car A runs 14.50 seconds with .525 R/T
Car B runs 15.25 seconds with .505 R/T
Car B wins (both cars run exactly at their dial-in, but Car B has a better R/T)
Now let’s take a look at the actual track, and what some of the things are that you see around you when you are there.
“The Burnout Box”
This is an area before the starting line that is slightly lower than the rest of the tracks surface is sprayed with water to make burnout easier. (A quick tip: Avoid the water if you are running regular treaded D.O.T. tires, the water will stay in the groves of your tires, and pool under them at the starting line, making traction even more difficult)
“The 60’ timer”
Measures the time it takes the car to cross the first 60 feet of the racetrack, This shows you how well the car is launching, which affects your elapsed times. Most street tired cars have a 60’ time around 2 seconds
“The 660’ timer”
The 660 foot mark is exactly half way down the ¼ mile. You E.T. is recorded here, as well as your speed. Some tracks also have timers at the 330, and 1000 foot intervals.
“The Christmas Tree”
Getting a good reaction time at the starting line (also known as ‘cutting a good light’) all starts at the Christmas tree. A ‘Good Light’ will give you a big advantage over your opponent, especially if you are running the slower car. In simple terms the tree is a set of vertically arranged lights the give you, the driver a visual countdown to the start of the race.
At the top of the tree you will see two sets of lights that look like light bulbs used in your house. When you advance to the starting line, you want to have both of these bulbs lit up. This will let you know that you are properly staged. You will also want to make sure that you leave both sets of lights lit up, until it is time to go. If you roll forward you will ‘red-light’ (we’ll get to that part in a second). Next you will see a set of three yellow lights referred to as the ‘countdown’ lights. These lights will light up, from top to bottom, in a sequential order (top, middle, bottom). Just below these is a green light, once the green light turns on, you will leave the starting line. If you leave before the green light is lit up, you will ‘red-light’ that’s the next light on the tree at the very bottom, if you leave before the green light is lit up, you will red-light, and therefore lose the race. Now with that being said, most drivers will leave the starting line, just as the last yellow light lights up. This will put your car in motion just as the green light lights up. You have to be very precise in doing this, as moving too early will result in a red light. If you leave too late your opponent will have a *** advantage over you, before the race has even begun.
Hopefully this little F.A.Q. will have answered some of your questions, and if you still have any, after reading this. Feel free to ask any of the event staff, or track staff, at your track. Also some of the “pro racers” will be more than willing to help you out as well.
GOOD LUCK!!
courtesy of National Compact Racing Association Canada
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