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Old 10-24-2011, 12:04 PM
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Hey every one i working on a proposal to start a new import wars at byron or take over the one at gld. wanted to get input from racers on how they think things should get ran, classes, pay outs, just give me your ideas so i can make this happen for us

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Rules being enforced, payouts actually being payed out, follow one set of rules, probably just go by what IFO is doing or nscra is doing.
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yea bob i was thinking of going off the ifo rules, cause to me it seems like they got there **** togather, me and nick are thinking about goin to texas in december to check the series out.
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come on down!
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IFO style event in this area, we'll go as well.
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Once upon a time i was working on the same project, which was to make an actual event for the locals with actual classes to build on and etc.etc...

So if it helps any here was my basic format for getting this thing going.

#1. Get shops involved that want to get involved. They work and build peoples cars who go race so it shouldnt be a problem to have them and their clients involved. That brings stability, diversity and participant/spectator count up.

We bring shops in by having them help sponsor classes that they specialize in. Nothing huge..maybe a few hundred to help cover prizes, trohpies, peepee touches..etc..etc.

Example - RWD Turbo class sponsored by GRAuto

I did talk to a few shops locally before and they were up for it.

#2. Spread the events apart more than 1 month so its something to actually build up to. Season opener, a couple mid season and season ender. Unless everyone else thinks otherwise? I dont know how geeked up i can be about a monthly event, but thats just my opinion. Oh, and especially if you have sponsors shelling out money for each event...i dont know how well the return on investment is for a monthly check going out for events but only time can tell.

#3. Classes. IFO style rues, pretty simple. Enforce a few strict points to make sure things are balanced..listen to what the class racers want. Payouts are X amount with this many entries and XX amount with these many entries, simple.

I had something along these lines going and actually going pretty well for about 5 minutes. That was until i couldnt get a venue locked down. Then i realized that i wasnt willing to gamble any of my money on an event. So i went a different route.

Good Luck...and you have our support if you make something happen.

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thanks mikey. thats how i plan on running the events, i just need to get a group of shops that will participate for each class. not having 5 sponsors for a pro fwd class and only 1 for say a awd class or a rwd class i working on this everyday so i can get the ball rolling as soon as possible.
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My brother and I ran in the PRO-fwd class at Import Wars in '08. Just about every race we ran had more than enough for a field of eight so we never really had payout issues. I can see how GLD would be hesitant to payout when there were only one or two cars in the class (as in '09, '10, '11). They should have made that clear up front before people made the drive for it (our drive from STL was about 6-1/2 hours). I'd be fussy if I didn't get what I earned; however, if I knew it needed a full field to justify full payout BEFORE I made the trip, I would be a little more understanding. So like MikeySpec said, putting all the payout info up front would be pivotal. If there are conditions like car count, post race tech inspection, car legality, etc make it clear in the flyer.

My second biggest concern is car legality. GLD tech guys didn't know the basic safety rules and the racers had to plead their case against illegal cars. At an event at KCIR, the tech guys did little more than check the battery and wristband. They never looked at the harnesses, helmet, the cage, wheel studs, blatant leaks, etc. I know it's tough to do with only one or two guys but if you can get six or eight guys working it, you can tech a long line pretty quickly. With all the shops involved, it shouldn't be hard to find qualified dudes to do this.

If it looks like something will come together, I can get the STL racers to jump in. There are quite a few dedicated racers here who are looking for something like this.
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count us in, IFO rules and consistant payouts for X amount of cars. even though the payout is not why we come, we just want more people participating so we can have more fun

tech is important as well, NHRA book rules for the time you run-pretty simple
its too easy to tell tech 'i think ill run a 13' then pop off a 10.50, lol

racergti: id like to see you back at import wars, or this event. we had the most fun back in 08 when it was actually busy at the races
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well if you ask for the last event they were hard on tech, there was an evo all season, 10.9 or somethin, New tech guy told him and others break 11.55 or faster and your GONE. was kicked out running 11.2 for no cage, more strict now
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count us in for either support or participation. rico has my number.
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Originally Posted by Delsolcrzy
well if you ask for the last event they were hard on tech, there was an evo all season, 10.9 or somethin, New tech guy told him and others break 11.55 or faster and your GONE. was kicked out running 11.2 for no cage, more strict now
yes that was dale, him and my buddy reid were never really looked at all year long in tech both cars are bottom 10 sec cars. last month at nationals we got rieds car into the 9's. no one said anything to us at all. come to the event 2 weeks ago and the told us cant go faster than 11.50. i thought it was bullshit cause dale and ried were in the points race for 1st place and had there cars set up to do battle. so we quickly had to change the set up and got it dialed in for 11.50's, personaly i would have just been like **** it, its our mess up all year let them race. but instead than bitched moaned and cried.

neither of them were kicked off the track, dale the blue evo took first and reid came in second
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yea they stayed in there Et. It sucks but we all have to obey the rules. I hope you guys figure something cool and high attendance. Think joliet would be the SH*T, but thats big money, i hear they dont care for the 1/4 mile track much.I guess we will see what happens for next season. Really excited. To bad there is no class for my car HA
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OH its not there mess up Its a new tech guy, going by all the rules.
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Any more planning on this? Tracks are filling schedules and the opportunities will start to thin out.

Is everyone gonna be satisfied with GLD's effort for another season?

It looks like St.Louis is on the IFO schedule for September 23rd. The details arent posted on the IFO site but at least they have a date.

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I tried my hardest to book R66, but after a month discussing, they ultimately passed on the event... sounds like a big corp hassle over there.

I also tried GLD, but they were not interested either since they host their own Import events.

Byron is too far from the city to attract a big enough crowd. I've been down that road with Chicago before and failed miserably.

Please come and support the St. Louis IFO on Sept 23rd. www.ImportFaceOff.net
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any updates?? GRAUTO: still planning something?
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Originally Posted by boostek9
any updates?? GRAUTO: still planning something?
We asked him a few days ago on Facebook if any changes were coming and he replied back with what changes do you want.... I doubt anything came about this.
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map holds a decent proving grounds event for the past 3yrs
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i have attended every MAP event. best event in the midwest, but it a single yearly event. i was hoping to see a series similar to the import wars in GLD, only more organized and consistant for rules
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awesome
each year it gets bigger and better



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it'll be nice to have another event such as IFO here in the midwest. MAP's event cannot compare to IFO, Fall Nationals. Proving ground is nice for lots of local guys to compete and have fun.
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Originally Posted by EJ1_Ex
it'll be nice to have another event such as IFO here in the midwest. MAP's event cannot compare to IFO, Fall Nationals. Proving ground is nice for lots of local guys to compete and have fun.
IFO tried coming down here this year but they were shot down.
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That would have been dope. I would have made the trip. Rarely do big events come close to the upper midwest. **** sucks. But atleast MAP is giving out prize money for winners. Should help for those traveling long distances for part of gas. It's def a good time.


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