Meziere Electric water pump testing
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Meziere Electric water pump testing
Just wanted to share some testing we just did with the Meziere electric water pump kit for Hondas.
Pretty much every high hp street setup we do runs on the verge of 'too hot' if not actually running too hot. We've done lots of things to improve the situation, but short of cutting a big vent in the hood to let the heat out, we've never been in an ideal situation where we actually had control over engine temperature.
We just put that electric pump kit on a car that has been having issues and it's been a night and day difference. We went from cruising at 195-200, even with the fan coming on at 185, to cruising at the temp that we cycle the fan on and off at. Turning the fan on at 185, the engine temp goes from 185 to 183 as the fan cycles on and off and beating on it, it never went above 188.
I know this stuff has been out there for quite a long time, but i've never tested it and didn't realize how well it would work and benefit the street guys with overheating issues. We will 100% be using these on all our builds from here on out.
Hope this helps other guys with the same problems.
Also, i'd like to add, the myth about if you cycle the water through the radiator too fast that it won't work right is 100% false. More water flow = better cooling.
Pretty much every high hp street setup we do runs on the verge of 'too hot' if not actually running too hot. We've done lots of things to improve the situation, but short of cutting a big vent in the hood to let the heat out, we've never been in an ideal situation where we actually had control over engine temperature.
We just put that electric pump kit on a car that has been having issues and it's been a night and day difference. We went from cruising at 195-200, even with the fan coming on at 185, to cruising at the temp that we cycle the fan on and off at. Turning the fan on at 185, the engine temp goes from 185 to 183 as the fan cycles on and off and beating on it, it never went above 188.
I know this stuff has been out there for quite a long time, but i've never tested it and didn't realize how well it would work and benefit the street guys with overheating issues. We will 100% be using these on all our builds from here on out.
Hope this helps other guys with the same problems.
Also, i'd like to add, the myth about if you cycle the water through the radiator too fast that it won't work right is 100% false. More water flow = better cooling.
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Good stuff..
I've been using the Meziere universal water pumps on non-honda's with good success as well...
What size hoses are you using?
I've been using the Meziere universal water pumps on non-honda's with good success as well...
What size hoses are you using?
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The one we did was with the stock hose, their kit makes it nice and easy. Mounts on the trans and you cut the stock lower hose and it hooks up to the inlet and outlet of the pump.
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About $430 for the complete kit.
http://www.meziere.com/ps-1332-1268-wpk50022.aspx
Or you could buy the pump for a little under $200 and mount it yourself and cut the blades off your stock water pump instead of buying the idler if you're on a budget.
http://www.meziere.com/ps-1332-1268-wpk50022.aspx
Or you could buy the pump for a little under $200 and mount it yourself and cut the blades off your stock water pump instead of buying the idler if you're on a budget.
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could of told you it worked good, i have round robined my car 4 passes back to back with out issues. this setup works great
only issue is, make sure you mount the pump up and down, if you lay the pump on its side it will fail
only issue is, make sure you mount the pump up and down, if you lay the pump on its side it will fail
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we have been doing this on our drag and street cars for years, its so worth the money! now roger needs to come on board! lol
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Kevin, which pump do you have this one Tony's talking about or a different model ?
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i use the wp136 which is the one in the kit, i use it for the cooling system and for the intercooler, flows like a firehouse, i can drain my ic tank (5gl) very fast
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this pump is awesome. Ive had it on my car for about a year now and it keeps the temps real low. Sometimes in the fall I dont even use a fan because the temps are so low.Also its great for when they try to rush you between rounds. When I get back to the pits I leave the pump on with the fan going and it gets my temp down to 120-130 in about 3-4 minutes. I love this kit
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I was told either works with the series pump I got for the cooling system. Albeit overkill lol
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I just did 1961 mimi coper has rear eng h22 & the rad is in the front it run at 230 when
ran hard so just used the meziere water pump plate and the big pump 55gpm now it runs
allmost to cold
I have used them for years
tony your welcome lol
ran hard so just used the meziere water pump plate and the big pump 55gpm now it runs
allmost to cold
I have used them for years
tony your welcome lol
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About $430 for the complete kit.
http://www.meziere.com/ps-1332-1268-wpk50022.aspx
Or you could buy the pump for a little under $200 and mount it yourself and cut the blades off your stock water pump instead of buying the idler if you're on a budget.
http://www.meziere.com/ps-1332-1268-wpk50022.aspx
Or you could buy the pump for a little under $200 and mount it yourself and cut the blades off your stock water pump instead of buying the idler if you're on a budget.
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nice job on the test.
they are a no brainer & it still doesnt add up to me why not.
after all we are running water coolers, cars have front bumpers that are closed off (will not work on the street) exhaust out of the hoods. none of these are nowhere near streetable. air temp will be to hot water temps will also.
gotta let go of the STREET outlaw aspect, its "OUTLAW" street
they are a no brainer & it still doesnt add up to me why not.
after all we are running water coolers, cars have front bumpers that are closed off (will not work on the street) exhaust out of the hoods. none of these are nowhere near streetable. air temp will be to hot water temps will also.
gotta let go of the STREET outlaw aspect, its "OUTLAW" street
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did one on a CRX a while back. kit was super simple to install and worked real well. that particular car absolutely did not need it though lol
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nice job on the test.
they are a no brainer & it still doesnt add up to me why not.
after all we are running water coolers, cars have front bumpers that are closed off (will not work on the street) exhaust out of the hoods. none of these are nowhere near streetable. air temp will be to hot water temps will also.
gotta let go of the STREET outlaw aspect, its "OUTLAW" street
they are a no brainer & it still doesnt add up to me why not.
after all we are running water coolers, cars have front bumpers that are closed off (will not work on the street) exhaust out of the hoods. none of these are nowhere near streetable. air temp will be to hot water temps will also.
gotta let go of the STREET outlaw aspect, its "OUTLAW" street
Just because the class has the word "street" in the title somewhere, doesn't mean anything when you are setting up rules for a racing class. I think the NRG Tech car is a perfect example of a car setup for this class, and I think we should all be looking at ways to make the cars more reliable instead of just a few people whining about "keeping them street".
I never, ever understood the dork rules that people insisted on keeping for these cars. These cars are a big investment for anyone that wants to build one, and we should accept anything that builds reliability into these cars. If some people can't afford to add an electric water pump to their car, then they don't have to have one. Simple. That shouldn't prevent someone else from trying to improve the reliability of their investment.
I don't understand the rear fuel tank either. That's another dork rule that makes no sense.
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Here is what I used to use, but I remember paying $230 for the whole setup. That was 5 or 6 years ago though.
$249 for the pump
$131 for the blockoff
http://www.goldeneaglemfg.com/index....x&cPath=76_166
$249 for the pump
$131 for the blockoff
http://www.goldeneaglemfg.com/index....x&cPath=76_166