lets talk intercoolers
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Re: lets talk intercoolers
depends on which model you had. I have seen a few that were borderline being between to different types of applications and yes they were kinda heavy. But the ones we use for our FMIC/A2A normal type and style and within what I would call "normal" thier effectiveness IMO is worth it
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Re: lets talk intercoolers
I've tested a lot of intercoolers and never found one that comes close to the performance of the Garrett cores.
Bell cores are one of the worst i've ever tested. It's great that they have EVERY size under the sun, but they don't even come close to the Garrett in performance.
You guys talking about making xx power on xx core, you shouldn't base anything on that. I could put an ebay intercooler on my car and make 1000hp, doesn't mean jack because it could make 1200hp on a Garrett.
Fact, different cores will perform differently.
Pressure drop and efficiency (temp drop).
And anyone quoting data from a Honda IAT sensor, it's inaccurate and slow, your intercooler isn't working as good as you think.
Bell cores are one of the worst i've ever tested. It's great that they have EVERY size under the sun, but they don't even come close to the Garrett in performance.
You guys talking about making xx power on xx core, you shouldn't base anything on that. I could put an ebay intercooler on my car and make 1000hp, doesn't mean jack because it could make 1200hp on a Garrett.
Fact, different cores will perform differently.
Pressure drop and efficiency (temp drop).
And anyone quoting data from a Honda IAT sensor, it's inaccurate and slow, your intercooler isn't working as good as you think.
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Re: lets talk intercoolers
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Those Garrett cores are definitely bad ***. We mad 20 pulls, dame near back to back to back on the dyno and never even put a fan on the intercooler. They do their jobs well!
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Re: lets talk intercoolers
great information in this thread for those of us on the cusp of buying a new one. i have read and read and read, and had an idea of whats good but the information in this thread is now leading me in the right direction
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Re: lets talk intercoolers
The intercooler drops the temperature of the air which makes the air more dense. The denser the air is when it enters your motor, the more o2 molecules will be in that mixture. This is because the volume of your motor doesnt change, so if you are talking about 70C degree air versus 30C degree air you are talking about a density change of approx 14%
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Ive been usan an ebay 32X12X4", 24X12X4 core 3" inlet 3" outlet for a long time with no issues, even on the dyno the aem IAT on a 75 deg day never went above 115 deg, 60 trim t3 made 550whp on 30psi, t67 h.o. made roughly 675whp on 35 lbs.
For my new setup im going with a dual backdoor same sie core as the last one, 3" inlet/outlet. We will see how it does. Power goals are in the 800-900whp range. If it proves to be a problem then more than likely ill just spend the coin on a garrett core and have custom backdoor endtanks made.
For my new setup im going with a dual backdoor same sie core as the last one, 3" inlet/outlet. We will see how it does. Power goals are in the 800-900whp range. If it proves to be a problem then more than likely ill just spend the coin on a garrett core and have custom backdoor endtanks made.
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Re: lets talk intercoolers
I had a CX Racing core on my SRT-4 and my air temps where ****ing terrible, I posted a thread about it on here. I now have a Garrett (thanks to all of the advice on here) 18x12x4.5 core and will be testing it soon.
Tony said it best. You may make a lot on a shitty intercooler, doesn't mean you couldn't have made more with a good one.
Tony said it best. You may make a lot on a shitty intercooler, doesn't mean you couldn't have made more with a good one.
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Re: lets talk intercoolers
Atp sell garrett cores also FR!
Tony, what about aem iat? Does it respond fast enough, accurately?
I remember there was a thread on here discussing sensors and logging pre and post intercooler.
Tony, what about aem iat? Does it respond fast enough, accurately?
I remember there was a thread on here discussing sensors and logging pre and post intercooler.
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AEM sensors are the same as the GM sensor, they're pretty fast and accurate post intercooler. Pre intercooler on a high boost setup requires a thermocouple as the temps often surpass 300F, and the regular temp sensors start reading weird over 250F or so.
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how about the full race 3.5" or 4.5" intercooler (intake temps)? i'm also searching for an intercooler to support 900 whp.
if the core alone is $480ish, why not spend another $300 bucks and buy the intercooler.
if the core alone is $480ish, why not spend another $300 bucks and buy the intercooler.
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