turbohatch96y7

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quick run down

aem v2
epm
k coils
b20b

I followed all of the directions and double checked all my connections tested for spark its all there.

I just cant get the motor to start and run. I messed with my cranking fuel settings taking out a lot of fuel and adding fuel. I still cant get it to start.

It will try to run but turns off and backfires out of the intake.

I took the gear off the epm and flipped it and it sounded worse. It was popping really loud out of the down pipe after letting go of the key. So I switched it back.

Im thinking its my dwell settings since the aem directions are for pencil coils and not k coils, anyone with experience let me know if you have any insight.

thanks

edit: solution to problem
if you're running the epm with k coils


dwell settings need to be for 01-05 civic in the wizard see pic below

sync initial ignition timing while cranking the motor and having the timing locked. Mine was at maybe 60 degrees btdc to sync the timing take an old spark plug wire peel off the boot and stick it into the coil, tape it to the coil so it stays put and attach the other end into the spark plug and the timing light goes onto the plug wire.

Batt needs to be fully charged while finding your base timing. Ping at aem said the coils need sufficient voltage to fire properly.

When connecting your coils to a switched 12v the existing power cable for the stock distributor will be fine.

My coils are grounded at the thermostat. Epm is at a chassis ground.

if you have a yellow wire at the epm its the same as the green wire in the epm instructions provided by aem.

SwappedTURBOegg

dwel wouldn't cause it to do that. but if you want dwel settings open up k series map and simply copy the settings over.

Boosted_01 R

Sounds like the firing order is wrong.... or mechanical timing is way off

luck4rmkc

iTrader: (2)

^when he said backfired out of the intake my first thought was mechanical timing is off.

J.Berta

Doesn't sound like you have the initial timing set yet. I had similar situation, especially with the backfiring.

turbohatch96y7

iTrader: (15)

I get the back fire when I let go of the key only.

I set my crank injector time linear from 3000 to zero and found where it liked to start up using the tps.

It sarted to run then died. I thought it was maybe a dwell setting off.

turbohatch96y7

iTrader: (15)

Duh! Lol didn't even think of that. I opened up k manager but those were different.

I looked in the aem file for a s2k and copied them. They were off from the settings aem gave me. Hopefully it starts when I get home.

The mechanical timing is good. Maybe off half a tooth the most I think less. . That shouldn't keep it from turning over.

I was reading to set the timing with the ems I need a plug wire but that's after I get it to run right?

Also my epm has a yellow wire. The aem instructions show green.

fmfkid250

Sounds like the "a tooth" is in the wrong spot. Take all the spark plugs out and put a timing light on Number 1. You are not even in the ballpark.

turbohatch96y7

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I've gotten the motor to run maybe 3 seconds then it sounds and smells like it floods and dies.

Ill pull all the plugs today and verify the timing is at least close to 16 btdc

J.Berta

That is what I was referring to. I pm'd you.

turbohatch96y7

iTrader: (15)

Thanks for the help. Gotta wait till I get off work to check and sync the timing.

turbohatch96y7

iTrader: (15)

Ok after talking to j berta and aem I know now I need to

1 sync timing while cranking the motor over. (Didn't know timing would be so far off)

2) get resistor type plugs. The dummy at aem told me non resistor is fine.

3) set the dwell to the same as 01-05 civic in the wizard

4) batt needs to have a really good charge

Ill post up the results when I get the plugs and get home

This setup really needs a good write up

J.Berta

Glad I could help and you understood! It took me a little while to figure out what I needed to do for the 1st time setting it up.

turbohatch96y7

iTrader: (15)

GOT HER STARTED!!

I set the timing and was still off 180 because it kept popping pretty loud out of the exhaust this time.

advanced the timing another 180 and bam! Startedright up. Thanks again everyone in here.


just to recap

all jumpers in the aem guide are at 1-2
dwell for k coils need to be 01-05 civic in the wizard.
Need to sync timing BEFORE start up by cranking the motor first
Alo my epm has a white, yellow, red, black wire. In the aem guide the green is the yellow wire on our epm.

DDTECH

Glad you got it, I was about to tell you about setting up timing but glad you got it.

J.Berta

Congrats! ! Cheers!