diogolucindo

Hey guys.. Im looking for purchase one of this cams set.

Today, for HIGH boost aplications(600whp+), in B-series, whats the best and more used set of cams??? Is there any comparison between the boths?

P.S.:

*** V1 Turbo Specs:
IN 11.56 @ 253
EX 10.92 @ 250

*** Skunk2 pro1+ Specs:
IN 12.7mm @ 255
EX 11.9mm @ 255

tepid1

Are you working with a specific price in mind?

Personally I'd use the Pro 1's over the V1 cams. The .455" of lift on the V1's just isn't enough for BIG power, however, if you are shooting for 800hp or less it may work out for you. It all depends on the rest of your setup.

If there is no price limit then the Web Cams's stuff is tough to beat. Their customer service is second to none.

diogolucindo

I looking for a good price(now I cant buy a new S2 Pro1+ sets) like a used in good condition s2 pro1+ or a set of V1/V2 IPG cams... Around USD 400.00 is very fine at all...

About the power, NOW my target is 700whp, but Im looking for the future too and I looking to run in a mid 9's here in Brazil...

So, if the cams of skunk are more aggressive, then it would be better purchase them once and for all. To not need to buy again later.

Anyone know of any comparison between them?

hello1320

type r cams with stock cam gears for 700 i made over 800 with type r cams

diogolucindo

V1 made more power than ITR and CTR cams... And veru more power than Skunk2 Turbo cams...

https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-49/innes-v1-b-series-vtec-turbo-camshafts-race-proven-2010936/

Some guys say the V1 make 50-70hp more then ITR/CTR cams(i know the ctr is a little more agressive than itr, but i dont know exactly how much more).


P.S.:
specs on dino graph
skunk2 turbo intake - 9.77mm lift, duration 230 at 1 mm
skunk2 turbo exhaust - 8.89 lift, duration 225 at 1mm

jun type 2 intake - 12.0mm lift, duration 266.6 at 1mm
skunk2 stage 1 exhaust - 10.9mm lift, duration 249 at 1mm

dyno 003 - skunk2 turbo camshafts
dyno 007 - jun type 2 intake, skunk2 stage 1 exhaust

tepid1

Well, if your going to look out for the future too then I'd look into the Skunk2 Pro 1's. Only thing with that is you will need to upgrade your springs and retainers too. It's not just a simple cam swap. You may have to do the same for the V1's as well.

Blake8418

so v1's are actually just a combination of a jun and skunk cam?

93-lsvtec-eh2

heres the real specs of his cams here



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These camshafts have been a year in the making from first idea, through testing to final delivery to the marketplace at the beginning of 2006. Many of you remember the incredible gains that we saw during some camshaft testing during the middle of the 2005 season and now we have fine tuned the profiles to give excellent power throughout the RPM band from full on race engines to mild daily driver setups.

Here is the original information from our original camshaft testing....

this is a before and after dyno graph of just a simple camshaft change - same timing, same boost, same targeted lambda

engine setup:
85mm cp pistons
b18c1 block, golden eagle sleeves
carrillo rods
ed's racing // Headgames p&p b16 head with supertech valves, valve springs and retainers
golden eagle intake manifold
gt4067 turbo
motec m4 ems

advertised specs
skunk2 turbo intake - 9.77mm lift, duration 230 at 1 mm
skunk2 turbo exhaust - 8.89 lift, duration 225 at 1mm

jun type 2 intake - 12.0mm lift, duration 266.6 at 1mm
skunk2 stage 1 exhaust - 10.9mm lift, duration 249 at 1mm

dyno 003 - skunk2 turbo camshafts
dyno 007 - jun type 2 intake, skunk2 stage 1 exhaust




Impressive Gains Huh ????

we worked on the profiles a bit more to give a more all around set of camshafts to the market that will work in full blown race cars to mild 250 whp daily driver cars and here are the specs on what we have derived:

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1mm/duration

11.56 @ 253
10.92 @ 250

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diogolucindo

I have a complete Supertech valvetrain include springs, retainers, titaniun valves 1mm+, etc... I dont have only the cams and cam gears. Because of this I looking for a set of agressive turbo cams and a lighter cam gears...

So, I will run with a S2 pro1+ cam and S2 pro cam gears...



If anyone have for sell a set like that, PM'me... thanks...

boosted hybrid

The brian crower stage 3's are another alternative that work very well on big turbo set-ups.

tepid1

You may find that you will have problems with those cams and the Supertech springs. I do believe I remember reading of people having issues with valve float w/ lower spring pressures that the Supertech stuff uses.

Just a heads up man....

narfdanarf

you are also gonna have problems with +1mm valves and the pro1's. To get proper v2v clearance on my car I had to dial back the cams a few degrees from what they should be and I only have .5mm over.

diogolucindo

Whats the stuff you think is fine??? Because I see lot of drag cars using a Supertech hardwares... Skunk2 is much better??? Im thinking that Supertech was a fine stuff...

But it is +1mm in width of the valve. Not in lift.

HamiltonRex

what do you guys think of kelford cams?

diogolucindo

I particularly dont know...

tepid1

I've only heard of problems. I've never seen any myself with the Supertech's.

The Skunk 2 Pro series valve springs and retainers are ok, but the Ferrea hardware is top notch, but cost quite a bit more. It's your call.

Remember even if the valves are +1mm that will affect your V2V clearances along with a higher lift cam. You SHOULD check your V2V clearances and write yout data down. It will be crucial when it comes time to tune and dial in your cams.

diogolucindo

Yeh... we will check the clearances already. I just thinking that the big problem is the Overall Length(102.5mm) and it is the same of OEM valves, only the head diameter of valves is 1mm increased(to 34mm/29mm). And the clearance/port with the head is already done for this valves... But we'll check the clearance with the new cams before we run it... thanks all times...
My rev-limites is not over 9.5krpm. Does not really recomend I use the supertech hardware? (They talks supports up to 11k rpm) ...

one more think...

V2V = valve to valve. right?

Spoolin18

Kelford is an excellent company. I'm not exactly sure how good they work in the Honda world, but in the Mitsubishi world a ton of guys use them. This is making me want to get rid of my Crower turbo grind cams..

0xenocron

PRO1s with Supertech Dual Valve Springs, and .5mm oversized valves...had zero problems.

Dialed the cams in with the fixture kit, and didnt even consider checking valve to valve (maybe I should have, but the car revved to 10,200 just fine).

Antilag

My Car went very well with the V1 turbo cams. 9.3,9.4's. Idled great even at undegreed cams. I used supertech valve train for 3 years and ran these cams for 2 years as well. Loved them.
FYI We first tried the sk2 pro 1's, after first pass the nipple on the intake cam broke right off. Thank god i was idleing when it broke, otherwise it would of costed me a motor. But im sure everyone has isses.

V-SPEC 1

Steve, what nipple are you talking about, do you have pics of the broken cam?

92sc61

How about mid-range (500hp?) or do you need to throw a lot at them for the full effect? How is the drivability with them, streetable?

diogolucindo

Fine!!! In my case, I will use a over 1.0mm, and is forehanded check valve to valve.. But , already I run some months with this head and I have no problem at all... BTW we'll check after install the pro1's... Thanks for your brief, made me more calm and decided to use my supertech hardware even.

Steve, you made Low 9's with V1???? Awesome!!! Thats my final target here!!! lol .... And about your experience with supertech, I think that was what I needed to hear to play it quiet, too. Thanks for your brief...
Steve, and about your ET using Pro1's cams??? You got to check it? Today whats spec you use?

I would like to know that, too...

Antilag

I ran great with the v1 cams, made one full pass on low boost with the skunk2 pro 1's. i went to recieve my ticket, and my car made a wierd noise and died. So i check and see the timing belt is off and the cam gear was on the ground. It broke right where the cam gear went on. Sorry no pics, was more worried about doing a leak down to make sure nothing got hurt. And sent the cam back to Skunk2. Timing belt was not too tight either, and bolt was still in the gear with the broken cam piece stilla attatched. Skunk has a good reputation and quality cams. Every one has defects every once in a while. There customer support was great. Got another one asap, but i sold them right after i purchased the v1's. My V1's idle great and makes great power in the mid through up top.

I'm going with the ferrea set up.

Btw my v1's are for sale everyone.

HCivic45

Pro1s BREAK in half... my own experience... you can also ask one of the fastest racers in the industry (SFWD Outlaw) he broke one too.... I dont want to mention any names... but yeah those things break.... about power... hmmmm for N/A they work great for turbo....they break......