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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by xtrac1
I question them even being flow matched.
I will bite too :p

Static or Dynamic?
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 06:39 AM
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clearly the point of making this thread was to pick a fight/troll. this is a technical sub forum so if you do not care to share any tech please move along. how ever it does seem that you may have some interesting information or points of view, but you'd rather be a **** and not share said info?
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 10:12 AM
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He said he rather make money than sharing info.
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbogixxer
I will bite too :p

Static or Dynamic?
Dynamic y0!

And you don't want to run Motec on a flow bench.


Because they slap that piece of **** ECU on $1500 EGs, lulz.


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But imagine for a second how long a pair of intake valves are open for @ 9K RPM?

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Assuming half an inch or so of valve lift, not much time at all. My math isn't that great but I'm sure someone can figure it out.


Now in that time span, you have to get the correct amount of fuel into the chamber. Not stuck to the walls of the port. Not vaporized on the head of the valve.

If the pinnacle of injector performance is high atomization, something that every expert seems to believe is the holy grail of spray patterns, then it wouldn't be that difficult to get the droplet size down now would it. I mean some technical expertise is required but it ain't ******* rocket science.

For emissions purposes? Sure you want some atomization. For power production, not always. There are some cases where it is beneficial ( injector spraying into the velocity stacks-F1)





If you're a UPS delivery truck driver, would you want a million little packages to deliver each day?

Or a few large packages?

But instead of an eight hour work day, you have a few milliseconds.
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by xtrac1

Dynamic y0!

And you don't want to run Motec on a flow bench.

Because they slap that piece of **** ECU on $1500 EGs, lulz.

But imagine for a second how long a pair of intake valves are open for @ 9K RPM?

Assuming half an inch or so of valve lift, not much time at all. My math isn't that great but I'm sure someone can figure it out.

Now in that time span, you have to get the correct amount of fuel into the chamber. Not stuck to the walls of the port. Not vaporized on the head of the valve.

If the pinnacle of injector performance is high atomization, something that every expert seems to believe is the holy grail of spray patterns, then it wouldn't be that difficult to get the droplet size down now would it. I mean some technical expertise is required but it ain't ******* rocket science.

For emissions purposes? Sure you want some atomization. For power production, not always. There are some cases where it is beneficial ( injector spraying into the velocity stacks-F1)

If you're a UPS delivery truck driver, would you want a million little packages to deliver each day?

Or a few large packages?

But instead of an eight hour work day, you have a few milliseconds.
I completely understand
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 07:21 PM
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That's where the bigger picture comes into play. a .500 lift cam, it isn't just lift.
Duration, ramps(how fast and when they open).


A "great" example of what i'm trying to get out is a old youtube video by HPF.
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