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Old Jul 22, 2014 | 10:04 AM
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It seems as if the injectors sold by Grams is the same Bosch injectors sold by others.

Any truth to this?

http://cms.gramsperformance.com/
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Old Jul 22, 2014 | 10:56 AM
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Anyone try these?

Amazon.com: Bosch 0280158821 NG12 High Impedance Fuel Injector: Automotive Amazon.com: Bosch 0280158821 NG12 High Impedance Fuel Injector: Automotive
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Old Jul 22, 2014 | 05:24 PM
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I question them even being flow matched.
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Old Jul 22, 2014 | 08:50 PM
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r.i.p op
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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 08:59 AM
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Really? trolling in drag racing?
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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 11:33 AM
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It's a legitimate question, no?
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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 11:44 AM
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You seem to be the injector expert as per your signature. Care to educate us?
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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 11:58 AM
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My ID 1300's must be garbage then... Guess I'll tell my tuner who prefers ID's to all others he is wrong as well.
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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 12:55 PM
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You seem to be the injector expert
Not an expert. I have 20+ years worth of injector experience but I wouldn't consider myself an expert.

That is why I am asking questions.
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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by xtrac1
Not an expert. I have 20+ years worth of injector experience but I wouldn't consider myself an expert.

That is why I am asking questions.
You some kind of disgruntled RC Eng employee Brian?

Enlighten the community on your thoughts on injectors.
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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 01:23 PM
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Who Brian?

I don't work for anyone.

I am asking questions here, not dishing out knowledge.
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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 01:26 PM
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Your signature says a lot. Care to share your experiences or findings?
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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 01:50 PM
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Well, working with the boys at AEM on the RWD 6 second car and Bergenholtz and Kubo on their FWD 7 second cars.

Looking at the Motec datalogs, it seems the injector doesn't seem to matter a whole lot.

Execution does matter.

But this was way back in the days.

Maybe it's a bit different now.



Care to share your current experiences with your 8 second car?
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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 02:33 PM
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lol at posting this like you are trying to gather info when you already have the part number for this injector posted in your signature.
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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by xtrac1
Well, working with the boys at AEM on the RWD 6 second car and Bergenholtz and Kubo on their FWD 7 second cars.

Looking at the Motec datalogs, it seems the injector doesn't seem to matter a whole lot.

Execution does matter.

But this was way back in the days.

Maybe it's a bit different now.



Care to share your current experiences with your 8 second car?
Being I know members of the bergenholtz team from when I crewed on a few gm cars I'd say you should also know how to properly set a wheelie bar. But that's neither here or there.

My experience is properly matched injectors matter at all power levels. 2% deviation can matter a lot on a 1000+ hp car.

BTW fastest/quickest fwd cars ran fast xfi.

So why are id's so bad? Pretty sure back then everyone just pour methanol into their engines with 2-3 sets of Bosch 1600's
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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 05:57 PM
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He's a Troll from GDD - He's upset he trollololol because I told him RC injectors were outdated as **** and I proceed to troll his little injector thread.

Its FACT, The injectors of today, are of better design, spray pattern and usability.
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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 07:51 PM
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I'm just curious as to his findings. With 20+ years of injector experience he's gotta know a thing or two. Unless those 20+ years came in the stock room or shipping dept.

Also curious as to his roll on the teams he mentioned. A name like xtrac on teams that ran Fortin transmissions seems fishy.

Troll on.
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 07:35 AM
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I would think a guy with the name xtrac would have injectors and wheelie bars down pat. It's like he's got the name motec and he's asking questions about staging or preloading.
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 10:55 AM
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post got deleted....gaaaaaaay!!!!!!!
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DDTECH
spray pattern
I'm not sure if you understand how spray pattern works.

If you saw the spray pattern off a Cosworth XFE, you would realize this.
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by xtrac1
I'm not sure if you understand how spray pattern works.

If you saw the spray pattern off a Cosworth XFE, you would realize this.
Educate us master of injectors!
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by E Town DSM
Educate us master of injectors!
I would, but I rather make money off it.

But if I do enter full scale production, it'll get copied with the quickness, no way to patent it.

What's a guy to do?
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by xtrac1
I would, but I rather make money off it.

But if I do enter full scale production, it'll get copied with the quickness, no way to patent it.

What's a guy to do?
Haha. Sounds like a little kid.

"I could, I just don't want to..."

Nothing to see here, this thread is done, troll on...
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 06:04 PM
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Its amazing this tread isn't locked already........ OP love RC injectors, has it as his home page LOL..... Owner of RC injectors, fell off the wagon ?..... great, **** off to the general discussion area like all the other bullshit treads you make..... LOL
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 08:16 PM
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The truth always hurts. Even stings a little.
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