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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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Default Fuel Pump needs...

I'm on the final stretch to get my car together and have a few questions for you pros out there.

If my car is only putting out about 300whp, why do I need a fuel pump rated to 800? This is a serious question, because I want to make sure that I'm getting the right stuff.

I have a 1 gallon fuel cell in the front of driver side wheel. What pump do you guys recommend and why?

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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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Hey Steve,

I was using an aeromotive tsunami pump but I failed to install a vent into the fuel cell, causing it to overheat. I purchased a bosch pump from tony1 and the thing has been working great. Ran my personal best on sunday in my k20-ef at 11.92@114.

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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Fred n J’s_1.8’s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey Steve,

I was using an aeromotive tsunami pump but I failed to install a vent into the fuel cell, causing it to overheat. I purchased a bosch pump from tony1 and the thing has been working great. Ran my personal best on sunday in my k20-ef at 11.92@114.

HTH,
Julian</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nice!! was that in the EF i saw you in at island?
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 02:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Fred n J’s_1.8’s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey Steve,

I was using an aeromotive tsunami pump but I failed to install a vent into the fuel cell, causing it to overheat. I purchased a bosch pump from tony1 and the thing has been working great. Ran my personal best on sunday in my k20-ef at 11.92@114.

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Julian</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your motor is stock right?

Steve
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtekthis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice!! was that in the EF i saw you in at island?
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yup, black EF.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by k-series &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your motor is stock right?

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yeah, stock k20a2 swap, k-pro and SSR Race Header
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 05:12 AM
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Yeah, I should be fine with an Aero pump. How's the car feel bro? I didn't even know you were at the track yet. Nice times!

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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 05:15 AM
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are you running alcohol? if so, you will need the larger pump. IMO. and if you dont buy it now,,,,,,, you will end up buyin it in the future....
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 05:23 AM
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The motor is stock. It'll have new pistons, rods and cams, but stock bore and stroke. I'm not sure 12.5:1 merits alcohol.

That and I have no experience in running it.

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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 05:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by k-series &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, I should be fine with an Aero pump. How's the car feel bro? I didn't even know you were at the track yet. Nice times!

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car feels great now that i can run the right fuel pressure. the low end needs a little tuning but the car pulls crazy after half track
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 06:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by k-series &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The motor is stock. It'll have new pistons, rods and cams, but stock bore and stroke. I'm not sure 12.5:1 merits alcohol.

That and I have no experience in running it.

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Alcohol from what ive seen usually nets higher comp than that. Not quite sure if it will burn at 12.5:1. Maybe Tony1 might elaborate??
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 06:37 AM
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Alcohol will work fine at 12.5:1, but it allows much higher compression than that.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 07:00 AM
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Then if I plan on jucing the compression to 13.5:1, what pump would you recommend?

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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 07:06 AM
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The compression has nothing to do with the fuel pump. Figure out how much power you plan to make and go from there. Get more pump than you need, because you'll always want more power than you have. Do it once and be done with it. The Bosch pump will be very reliable and you'll never max it out in an n/a application.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 07:15 AM
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What I mean is if I'm in the 350whp range NA, do I even need to run alcohol and what pump/fuel combo would you recommend?

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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 07:22 AM
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Well basically it goes hand in hand... to make the power you desire, will probably net a higher compression ratio. I think anything like C-16 should work fine on higher comp you may not need to run alcohol but remember you will need to run extra injectors in a alcohol setup.

So what Tony1 is saying just get the big pump, dont kick yourself in the **** later for not doing so. Do it right the first time
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 07:23 AM
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That being said, will the Aeromotive 11106 serve my needs (up to 800hp NA) or the A1000?

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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 07:29 AM
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Techincally speaking, yes....but im trying to figure out why people have run the Weldon or Bosch instead of the Aeromotive unit.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid-Performance.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well basically it goes hand in hand... to make the power you desire, will probably net a higher compression ratio. I think anything like C-16 should work fine on higher comp you may not need to run alcohol but remember you will need to run extra injectors in a alcohol setup.

So what Tony1 is saying just get the big pump, dont kick yourself in the **** later for not doing so. Do it right the first time </TD></TR></TABLE>

you can get away with 4 160lb injectors NA. .....
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid-Performance.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but im trying to figure out why people have run the Weldon or Bosch instead of the Aeromotive unit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Anyone have any comments on this? Will the Aero unit be a good pump to run me through the gambit?

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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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I'd run the bosch pump. They are good for about 600whp. I know on AdamF pro car he ran one. More than enough pump for your needs and reliable.

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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 01:37 PM
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I'm guessing it's an inline? Could you give me a model number?

Thanks for everyone's help!

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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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I have one at the shop. PM me and we'll talk about price.

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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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Just found out that Skunk2 race cars were running Weldon in there cars but switched to Aeromotive.

Reason I have no idea LOL
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 06:44 AM
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Art's saying Bosch, others are saying Weldon, Skunk is running Aero.../sigh I just want to know what's the best bang for the buck. ...and why.


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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 07:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> The Bosch pump will be very reliable and you'll never max it out in an n/a application.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Tony too..hehe
The bosch pump is also a puller type pump. I run 2 of them.

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