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Old 02-08-2006, 03:20 AM
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so you only need it at 135+.

i dont think i am going to be that fast yet.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedcivicsir &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so you only need it at 135+.

i dont think i am going to be that fast yet.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wait till u hit the track then you'l be spending more money. I would rather do it before it happens.

Your setup looks good for 135+
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbocivic94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Wait till u hit the track then you'l be spending more money. I would rather do it before it happens.

Your setup looks good for 135+</TD></TR></TABLE>

as good as it sounds, damn.
Old 02-08-2006, 04:24 AM
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anyone have the specs on the rci diaper? LxWxH?
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http://www.rciracing.com/

Part number 7811A under accessories on their website. You will need to call them for further info and measurements.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NDRATECH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.rciracing.com/

Part number 7811A under accessories on their website. You will need to call them for further info and measurements.
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that just made my life a little easier. thankyou.
Old 02-08-2006, 06:17 AM
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called jegs on it, it is a part they dont stock, but can get and the dude was like "rci must be proud of it. its 385$ and i have to order it."

but i think thats a fair price.
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Stroud also has one that they make for Sport Compact. I am sure that it is around the same price.


http://www.stroudsafety.com/
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Can a transmission safety blanket with absorbent pads work in place of a scatter shield and catch tray?

I know some transmission safety blankets are SFI certified to be used in place of a steel scatter shield. It seems like you could save some money with a blanket over a scatter shield and pan.

I still like the idea of a smooth underbody pan and absorbent pads though. It should pass tech will also adding to the aerodynamics of the car.
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the one from diest only covers the bellhousing.
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The catch pans will pass tech as long as they have the absorbant material in them.(pigmat)
The ballistic trans blankets will work in place of the steel scattershields as long as they are SFI compliant. You will need to check with the MFG on the SFI approval number though.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rota92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thought it was for every SFWD car, is it not?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The rule is stated as a class requirement, so to me that means if you want to run the class you need the engine containment device, it doesn't say "all cars running 9.99 and faster have to have it." It is a general NHRA class rule. You run SFWD, you need it.
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It has been brought to my attention that several racers have questions on some of the new rules and safety requirements. So I will try and answer them for everyone.

Engine Diaper 9.59 and quicker forced induction Sportsman cars and mandatory on all Pro cars.

Parachutes mandatory at 150mph or faster.

Window net mandatory at 10.99 or 135mph with an altered uni body style car.
If car retains stock chassis and floor, a roll bar can be used in place of a roll cage, which means a net is not needed until 9.99 when you are required to have a cage.

Fire suppression mandatory on all forced induction cars running 9.59 or quicker.
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Yes, so some people may be running NDRA insted of SFWD.
NHRA SFWD

Engine Diaper - required regardless of what the car runs.

Parachutes mandatory at 150mph or faster.

Roll bar needed at 11.49 or quicker.

Roll cage needed at 9.99 or quicker or 135mph or faster. Than you need the window net.

All cars using a clutch and running quicker than 11.49 or faster than 135mph must be equipped with flywheel shield or a blanket meeting SFI Spec 4.1 completely surrounding the bellhousing is permitted.

So in this situation a blanket meeting sfi spec 4.1 and if it would pass as an engine containment device would kill two birds with one stone. Sucks you'd need two of them though, one for engine, one for trans. Would the rci blanket work for both requirements? If not what blanket would?

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Yes a catch pan will be legal.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rota92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks a lot, lets find a solution!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm going to make some phone calls, see if I can clear some stuff up on the blankets.
Old 02-08-2006, 09:04 AM
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Called rci...not what I wanted to hear.....here we go...

RCI engine diaper #7811A will work as an engine containment device. Problem - it only does the engine. Ok so i need one for the transmission also to confirm to the rule "FWD
vehicles using OEM manual-transmission case must also have
such a device for the transmission, to capture oil and debris in
event of transmission failure." Ok, oh what? you don't make one? you make the engine one but not one for the trans? Rci- "correct"
What if I used one of your sfi 4.1 transmission blankets on the trans for the flywheel shield and then used the engine diaper for the containment device? Rci - "that would work but the blanket can't be used as a containment device for fluids." Ummm, ok so to do this I would need...
1. RCI - engine diaper - summit = $220
2. RCI - Tranmission blanket - summit = $80
3. another rci blanket for the trans fluid containment - summit =$220

Totaling around $520 which isn't bad and well worth it for safety. How about working on the car with all this stuff on? And to my knowledge no one makes an SFI 4.1 trans blanket that can double as a containment device, rci said none that he knows of.

How can something used to contain shrapnal (sp?) from when a clutch explodes not be used as a containment device?

Hello NOPI, see you in MIR
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 80884 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hello NOPI, see you in MIR </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah thats what i am thinking.
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I never mandated the trans containment device for the simple fact that when most of the factory trans break in the Sportsman classes it is not that catastrophic.
I can't remember 1 instance that we had to delay racing due to a Sportsman breaking a trans and dumping fluid everywhere.
Pro cars, now that is differant.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NDRATECH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I never mandated the trans containment device for the simple fact that when most of the factory trans break in the Sportsman classes it is not that catastrophic.
I can't remember 1 instance that we had to delay racing due to a Sportsman breaking a trans and dumping fluid everywhere.
Pro cars, now that is differant.

See you guys in Maryland.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i can think of one....oh wait.....that was us throwing a rod through the block
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I can think of a few that have done that.
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well here are the sizes from RCI:
end to end is 15"
center width is 14"
sides are 12"
lips in the ends are 3"

this sux. because it is like 100 more than the one in summit and jegs. they measure:
20" x 20" x 11" with an 8" lip and a 5" lip
so that will be a little hard to make work.
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Which ones are you refering to? $100 more than what? I'm lost, the import diaper is cheaper than the reg diaper according to this... http://store.summitracing.com/...00379
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i called jegs and had them look up the part number, and they quoted me 385 for them, i did see summit has em for 219. jegs doesnt even list them on their site. but when i called tech and gave the 7811a part number they said 385 for it. needless to say i am not ordering it from jegs.
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