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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 05:08 AM
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Default Effects of Compression

I am building a new motor for my car when I get back. I am just wondering if someone could give me some good information on the effect of compression in a boosted engine. That being specifically in a drag car scenario.

What would the benefits be of running say 11:1 compression and 30psi vs 9:1 compression and 30psi?

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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 05:17 AM
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11.1 on 30psi is kaboom vs.9.1 on 30psi ..9.1 will give u more room for your 30lbs...tuning is the key
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by chippinpressure
11.1 on 30psi is kaboom
lol that was funny
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by chippinpressure
11.1 on 30psi is kaboom vs.9.1 on 30psi ..9.1 will give u more room for your 30lbs...tuning is the key
Not true, not true, true.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by boostedh22a
Not true, not true, true.
I agree... I think kutsujus2k and Tony just proved that since the stock S2K is 11:1.

More compression is just that... more compression of the mixture = more potential energy. You'll get more power. Just have to tune correct.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 06:48 AM
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More compression is less opportunity to control heat.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 06:59 AM
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...the simple answer is being able to make more power, but having less room for error when tuning. So, if you have a good tuner, its all good. If you ask Miller he will tell you that using that mix is nothing new.

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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 06:59 AM
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we generally do 9:1 on pump gas cars and 10:1 on race gas cars. i run 10:1 compression on my car at 50lbs of boost.

i had a personal turbo car of mine that was 12.5:1 compression. ran it on 110 octane gas. 20-25psi of boost. not ideal....but it was fun.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 08:32 AM
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We run 12.5:1 on our sunfire. I know of some local guys that are running 12.5:1 on gas with turbo and squeeze that are making some real good power. Were planning on switching to 11.5:1 on our crx.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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High Compression ratio has a overall higher thermal efficiency. I always say that low compression engines are for people who cant tune. These same people probably rely on knock sensors also. lol

Also, camshaft design plays a huge roll in compression ratio (dynamic)
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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 12:55 PM
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I guess my real concern is the difference in power worth it?

I am looking at either 9:1 or 10.5:1 compression ratios. Is it worth it to use the higher compression or go for more boost to make power?

The car will be ran on c16/q16. It will be built specifically for the strip. It will also be tuned by someone competent...undecided who exactly right now.


Also, what are your feelings on using spray in a boosted application like this? Is it complicating things too much? I know I will be limited on these engine because of a revability issue, as far as turbo size. I was thinking about using spray to pickup power, say 100hp on top of the boost.
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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by gc8dc95


Also, what are your feelings on using spray in a boosted application like this? Is it complicating things too much? I know I will be limited on these engine because of a revability issue, as far as turbo size. I was thinking about using spray to pickup power, say 100hp on top of the boost.
I think with as advanced as some of the manifolds and turbos on the market you will be fine with just 1 power adder. Spool and top end on some of these monsters doesnt seem to be a problem.
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