Dissapointing Times on H22 Hatch
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EG8 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I was shifting at 7400 Via Check Engine Light Shift light.
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I realize that h22s stop making power at 76/7700 but you still need that extra few hundred RPM for sheer wheel speed as well as to not drop the RPM as low during shifts.
Shifting at 7400 is probably not the best idea for those reasons, thats my opinion at least.
Street tires and/or drag radials should be slipped or feathered at the line for best results.
Definitely get rid of those worn out bushings as well.
For comparison my bro went 14.3 in his EK hatch with a stock GSR hatch. My h2b coupe went 12s so your hatch should definitely be a 13 sec car without a doubt.
It also takes practice though
I was shifting at 7400 Via Check Engine Light Shift light.
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I realize that h22s stop making power at 76/7700 but you still need that extra few hundred RPM for sheer wheel speed as well as to not drop the RPM as low during shifts.
Shifting at 7400 is probably not the best idea for those reasons, thats my opinion at least.
Street tires and/or drag radials should be slipped or feathered at the line for best results.
Definitely get rid of those worn out bushings as well.
For comparison my bro went 14.3 in his EK hatch with a stock GSR hatch. My h2b coupe went 12s so your hatch should definitely be a 13 sec car without a doubt.
It also takes practice though
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So you saying its probably a good idea to rev it higher, like 7,700-7,900? I wasnt sure if they liked those kind of rev's.
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I would.
I shift my stock head H22 to 8k. Just dont go too much beyond that IMO.
You need that extra few hundred rpms to carry the mph higher
I shift my stock head H22 to 8k. Just dont go too much beyond that IMO.
You need that extra few hundred rpms to carry the mph higher
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Re: (2fastGSR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2fastGSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would.
I shift my stock head H22 to 8k. Just dont go too much beyond that IMO.
You need that extra few hundred rpms to carry the mph higher</TD></TR></TABLE>
with stock cams it won't make any power any higher anyway.. even with my crower 3's i'm barely revving over 8100 rpms. doesnt make any power any higher....
I shift my stock head H22 to 8k. Just dont go too much beyond that IMO.
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with stock cams it won't make any power any higher anyway.. even with my crower 3's i'm barely revving over 8100 rpms. doesnt make any power any higher....
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with the dyno graph on the first page, the power doesnt even start to fall yet at 7400. So i could see reving it to 8 might help out a bit
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Re: (EG8)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EG8 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with the dyno graph on the first page, the power doesnt even start to fall yet at 7400. So i could see reving it to 8 might help out a bit</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah i was saying rev to 8 but any higher and your just slowing yourself down...
yeah i was saying rev to 8 but any higher and your just slowing yourself down...
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Yep, anything past 8k is worthless.
Power probably isnt going much past 76/7700 anyways, however shifting at 8k in comparision to the 7400 you stated- that extra 600 rpm in each gear will allow you to cross the traps at a higher RPM in 4th. More wheel speed is always good
Power probably isnt going much past 76/7700 anyways, however shifting at 8k in comparision to the 7400 you stated- that extra 600 rpm in each gear will allow you to cross the traps at a higher RPM in 4th. More wheel speed is always good
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i would have gone back yesterday but it rained, next time i go, i will reflash my chip and raise the check engine light shift like for 7600 and go from there
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Re: Dissapointing Times on H22 Hatch (EG8)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EG8 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
60' 2.26 (i know it leaves more to be desired)
330 6.149
1/8 9.328
mph 77.046
1/4 14.353
mph 98.46 seems low to me for H22 swap
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60 foot is pretty decent. 2.1 would be great, but 2.2 ain't bad on street tires. The 98 mph is what would concern me. But that could just be track location and quality. Don't sweat it too much.
60' 2.26 (i know it leaves more to be desired)
330 6.149
1/8 9.328
mph 77.046
1/4 14.353
mph 98.46 seems low to me for H22 swap
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60 foot is pretty decent. 2.1 would be great, but 2.2 ain't bad on street tires. The 98 mph is what would concern me. But that could just be track location and quality. Don't sweat it too much.
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your motor lasting 17k miles na is not waht im talking about.. i am saying as far as room for imporvement like boost, big shot of nitrous or any kind of power adder is just not what this motor was made for.. yes with bolt ons you should be able to outrun a lsvtec, but my ls hatch 8 years ago ran a 14.2 @ 89 mph on street tires, so i dont know what to tell ya..
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .CUBISH. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he didnt run the car with 180hp...he stated that he changed the exhaust etc and retuned..picked up 10-12hp which got him to 180</TD></TR></TABLE>
i make same power stock, but i have 155torque.... did a 13.8 in a 96 ek coupe
i make same power stock, but i have 155torque.... did a 13.8 in a 96 ek coupe
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DRIVENRacing »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your motor lasting 17k miles na is not waht im talking about.. i am saying as far as room for imporvement like boost, big shot of nitrous or any kind of power adder is just not what this motor was made for.. yes with bolt ons you should be able to outrun a lsvtec, but my ls hatch 8 years ago ran a 14.2 @ 89 mph on street tires, so i dont know what to tell ya.. </TD></TR></TABLE>-
just sleeve the block and its sooo much better than any b-series
just sleeve the block and its sooo much better than any b-series
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H22 was my first love. I would say with more seat time and of cource the traction bars and better rubber like everone has said youll be good. 180 isnt bad at all so the power is there. Not everyone thinks of suspension so replacing the bushings as mentioned is a good idea. Not sure if it was posted but what suspension and spring rates are you using?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by srt4thatazz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">H22 was my first love. I would say with more seat time and of cource the traction bars and better rubber like everone has said youll be good. 180 isnt bad at all so the power is there. Not everyone thinks of suspension so replacing the bushings as mentioned is a good idea. Not sure if it was posted but what suspension and spring rates are you using?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Tokico Whites with 500lb springs
I had the fronts set to 2 and the rear set to 5.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ghost 5.9 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">shift @ 8k, you will be fine on stock valvetrain and you will see quicker et's.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats what i plan on doing next time, I am going to lower my psi on my aziens like 17psi
Tokico Whites with 500lb springs
I had the fronts set to 2 and the rear set to 5.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ghost 5.9 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">shift @ 8k, you will be fine on stock valvetrain and you will see quicker et's.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats what i plan on doing next time, I am going to lower my psi on my aziens like 17psi
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This should definetly be your first step!! It's quite a bit of work but well worth it!
If you leave a loose front end like that alone you are going to start breaking axels and potentially damaging the rest of the drivetrain.
A traction bar will only be a bandaid withtout bushings that work
This should definetly be your first step!! It's quite a bit of work but well worth it!
If you leave a loose front end like that alone you are going to start breaking axels and potentially damaging the rest of the drivetrain.
A traction bar will only be a bandaid withtout bushings that work
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One thing that a lot of people keep forgetting to mention is the DRIVER. Practice, man. Some people need it.
Hell, my friend ran consistent 15.2 in his car. He would try everything and still get the same time. He let me run his car for one pass, having never driven it before and I pulled a 14.9. Not fast, but it still tells you that as well as you know your car, you may need to work on your skills to get the most out of it.
Hell, my friend ran consistent 15.2 in his car. He would try everything and still get the same time. He let me run his car for one pass, having never driven it before and I pulled a 14.9. Not fast, but it still tells you that as well as you know your car, you may need to work on your skills to get the most out of it.
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Hell, my friend ran consistent 15.2 in his car. He would try everything and still get the same time. He let me run his car for one pass, having never driven it before and I pulled a 14.9. Not fast, but it still tells you that as well as you know your car, you may need to work on your skills to get the most out of it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I can see that, when i go back im gonna treat it like a filthy ***** and just beat the pis out of it and see what works and what comes out of it.
Hell, my friend ran consistent 15.2 in his car. He would try everything and still get the same time. He let me run his car for one pass, having never driven it before and I pulled a 14.9. Not fast, but it still tells you that as well as you know your car, you may need to work on your skills to get the most out of it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I can see that, when i go back im gonna treat it like a filthy ***** and just beat the pis out of it and see what works and what comes out of it.
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appreciate the advice from everyone
Im planning to go on the 16th. I have to work every saturday until then, unless somenone switches with me.
Im planning to go on the 16th. I have to work every saturday until then, unless somenone switches with me.