Anybody know any of the technical details off the tops of their heads?

 

from my knowledge, it all depends on the track. they both use the same sfi book so technically there is no difference.

in a nutshell, how it used to be was nhra stickers are accepted at ihra tracks, but ihra stickers were not accepted at nhra tracks. money talks...one of those things when it comes to this situation.

 

such bullshit. especially hiking a chassis cert fee to nearly 200$

I could go on and on as i have in the past.

 

cages are something we spend money on that I personally dont think we should. I mean is is for safety yes it is, and does it save lives well yes it does but how many 9 second passes from guys riding crotch rockets have you seen with a cage attached to there bike lol. We have metal around us, but just think they have to ensure to dodge the car in the other lane fixing to run them over.

 

Let's not forget to add in the added hassel they give you because you have one of those damn import POS.

 

lol you know thats right when i run in heartland park topeka there like oh its an import im like yup runs 13's, and then i click off a 210second pass there like hey you need to slow it down and they are all over my ****

 

like i said i could go on and on about the racket NHRA puts us through when they don't have a SINGLE event that we as a whole would ever attend, the index class they have now does not count.

 

I can't believe people still think this way. If you don't want to spend money on safety equipment then stay away from the track. How much is your life worth? Did you ever think about that? I've seen many crashes in my 35+ years of racing. I've had to go to friends funerals because of crashes. My own daughter is here today because of safety equipment. She rolled her car at 130mph and didn't get a scratch. Anyone who does not want to spend money on safety equip. needs to stay away from the dragstrip.

 

my life is worth alot, and i have more chance dying in iraq with a mortor falling out the air than on the track buddy

so the guy riding the crotch rocket magically is protected????????

now the only places i see really requiring roll cages are nhra tracks i sign that form before we hit the track like everyone else does that says there not liable for your injury. did i say its not needed nope thats what what my original post was read it again. its about double standards

 

I agree 100%, NHRA is a bunch of bullshit. We have to pay membership fees to be able to race, though we don't race with them. We have to JUMP THROUGH HOOPS to get cage certifications around here. Story is the Dallas tech inspector is also an A/C guy, that's NHRA's reason that he never returns calls. I've been trying for a year to get my cage recerted. NHRA said I might have to drive to Houston or Oklahoma to get it done, 3 hours for a ****ing chassis cert because the idiot in Dallas doesn't do his job. I called the IHRA tech guy and he was here the following day..

 

Yea it makes no sense why we have to pay so much. The tech for the south central division though is one pretty cool guy.

 

Since we our cars don't have a place in the NHRA it seems pointless for them to do our cert unless it is close by. I wish there was a way that the sanctioning body we use, whether it be IFO, NSCRA, etc, could just verify that the cage in the car is certified by one sanctioning body or the other. I know the tracks wont ever let that happen though

 

we don't even race in nhra sanctioned events anymore so why do we need to comply with their rules? why should tracks hold us to nhra's standards when the race has nothing to do with nhra? i'm fine with having safety equipment and i understand that all parties involved want to keep everyone safe, but we DO sign a god damn waiver at the track that explains that we are accepting the risk of injury.

 

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exactly what i was getting at from motorcyle to car there is no differance except they tend to protect the guys in the cars/truck more than the guys on the bikes.

im asked not to run again because i dont have a cage, and to be honest i was fine with that but im in the stands watching since i paid to get in and a bike runs 8.90 something and im like dam what protects this guy leather as well as a helmet get real

 

The thing that is most irritating to me with my local track is that they rarely boot anyone unless they are protested. If they do boot a 4 cylinder car you can watch 4 V8's that day running fast enough for 10 pts and nothing gets said because they are regular bracket guys with pit spots.

Personally I want to put a 10pt in my car for my own safety and to avoid the chance of being booted at local events. At major events how often do they even check if you have a 9 second lic. or a cage cert?

 

im not to sure about that at all im not on a cage now because im having a hard time figuring out if im staying with my ef or going to an eg. i dont wanna drop 1500 on a cage then decide to get a differant chassy and have to buy another cage

i ran 10.6@136 they got mad
i ran 11.55@141 they didnt say **** times arent hat should matter the mph is

 

throw a S&W in it. chances are if it has a cage at all they wont even check it, esp. at a local track for test and tunes

 

Your right about that one. There's 7 times the kinetic energy in a 2500# car that runs 9.3@175 than a 8.49@145

 

I'm guessing a lot of it comes down to the cost of insurance for the tracks...someone that owns a track should chime in and let us know HOW we could potentially rectify this because it is a little ridiculous.

 

NHRA doesn't have to come to you to tech your car. Sure, they are paid for making a trip to your location but not required too. In your case it sounds like the tech inspector in Dallas needs to get his priorities straight. That's NHRA for you though... go figure.

Why can't you just take your car to a divisional race and have them recert it then?

 

I don't expect him to come to me, if he'd answer his phone and tell me where to meet him I'd gladly do so.

 

I'd just show up for a divisional race and tell the track your there just for a chassis cert. There has to be a way of getting a hold of the guy.