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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 06:05 AM
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so if there is anyone on here that would like to sell me a v2 aem with the AQ1 please pm me. and let me know if you would be intrested in trading for 2 aem v1's. oh and its for a eg or dc
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 061000rr
so true! if my ecu would have seen lean and added fuel i would have made more than 1 pass out of a brand new motor! i just paid for a motec in engine repairs.

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It saved a couple of motors because of low voltage with alternator/battery issues! Motec Corrected as much as it could and was enough to save motor.
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbo-charged
just tough to justify buying a dash/logger that is $2000 more than your ecu!!! also keep in mind a good logger is nice, but doesnt DO anything. get an ecu with good logging capabilities, and it can actually process the information and make on the fly changes for you. with a logger, you have to wait until the run is over to figure out what happened, to manually make adjustments for the next round. depending on what is happening, it could be too late.... a crap run that put you on the trailer, or a melted down motor. a good ecu has the ability to prevent those things from happening.
people have no patience to save money. If you cant get it instantly they go with the alternative or the easy. Oh well that's how things go. I'm not saying its the end all to everything, but it sure is a peace of mind.
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 08:38 AM
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has anybody used the innovate dl-32? if lets say i already had my car setup and tuned and i just wanted to keep track of a couple other things how is the dl-32?
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Rtype16
Blown - It all depends on how much you want to log and how much $ you want to spend to step into the game. We have personally used Race Pak dashes and AIM dashes on vehicles we have here at the shop and they work great. Although you know you stepping into a dash is a lot more money than some people want to spend. Currently with the AQ-1 there are 8 inputs and 3 digital switch inputs. However I do know in the future we plan on making CAN-bus jumper boxes to expand on the sensor inputs more. But that is in the future.

Also one more thing I believe, but not sure is doesn't Hondata have a communication to already talk to a AIM/Racepak dash? Not sure, but I thought I read somewhere that it did. Than you have the additional inputs from the dash as well.
Thanks! So I guess I need to do more homework, but can I run just the AQ-1 and it's software to pull up and view the data? Or do I need to run AEM Series 2 with the AQ-1? Or can I just use the AEM Series 2 to log all the data? I guess I am looking at a few options:

Hondata S300, AQ-1 or other external logger/dash/software.
AEM Series 2 by itself? with the AQ-1?
MoTeC
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Blown90hatcH
Thanks! So I guess I need to do more homework, but can I run just the AQ-1 and it's software to pull up and view the data? Or do I need to run AEM Series 2 with the AQ-1? Or can I just use the AEM Series 2 to log all the data? I guess I am looking at a few options:

Hondata S300, AQ-1 or other external logger/dash/software.
AEM Series 2 by itself? with the AQ-1?
MoTeC
Hey Blown - thought I would chime in again. And just so everyone knows this isn't Steph haha. Its Greg over at AEM. The asian guy(stephan's crew chief) for the FWD cars.

The AQ-1 is a standalone unit. However you will be limited on number of inputs as right now it only has 8. Here is the link for it http://www.aemelectronics.com/data-l...ata-logger-67/ Look down at the Tuner Features to see what you can log with it.

The only reason why I suggested the Series 2 is because you will gain all the inputs from that ECU and plug it directly into the AQ-1 CAN-bus so you don't have to double up on sensors. So you can any way you want really.

S300 with AQ-1 or some other dash logger
Series 2 EMS with AQ-1
Motec

Another thing is the data analysis software. I am pretty sure you have all seen our old software AEMlog not gonna say any more about that haha.

Check out the new Data Analysis software we just released. It is a free software upgrade. http://www.aemelectronics.com/data-l...s-software-81/ It is a huge upgrade to our Data Analysis Software. You can also download the software and play around with it as there is a sample log in the download.
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ahobbs
the reason is Kpro has a serial port, s300 doesn't. As long as s300 is setup the way it is It will never be able to send data to a dash. unless on the actual s300 board there can be provisions for a serial port. Only area in the ecu that i know of is the 4 pin CN something. Its been a while. I know neptune uses it.

Now you can make it work, but you have to individually tap each wire into the harness. It wont be a plug n play setup
So if I'm running a Neptune rtp ecu setup, does that mean I'll be able to put a racepak iq3 in te car and I'll be able to have the two communicate with one another? So no extra sensors for the racepak only and I'll be able to display all the things I want to log together?
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 07:42 AM
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do you or do you not need the aem egt controller to run 4 egt sensors with the aem AQ1? i just bought a aem v2 and a AQ1 and i bought a used aem 4 egt sensor setup. but do i need to use the controller box or not?
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 08:11 AM
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With the AQ-1 you can put 4 EGT sensors directly to the AQ-1 and the Thermocouple amp box is not needed.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Rtype16
With the AQ-1 you can put 4 EGT sensors directly to the AQ-1 and the Thermocouple amp box is not needed.
cool. thank you! if i had the amp box anyway would you suggest running it to the ems and saving the inputs on the AQ1 or not using the box and run them to the AQ1?
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 10:50 AM
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If you have the box already and a series 2 run the thermocouple box to save the inputs on the AQ-1 and run the Thermocouple box to the EMS instead. Just make sure you are using inputs that are sent to the AQ-1 over the CAN system
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Rtype16
If you have the box already and a series 2 run the thermocouple box to save the inputs on the AQ-1 and run the Thermocouple box to the EMS instead. Just make sure you are using inputs that are sent to the AQ-1 over the CAN system
sounds good. thanks for the help. yeah i just ordered the aem v2 and the AQ1 so im looking forward to using it. will it tell me what inputs i need to use when hooking up the egt's to the aem so it will go to the AQ1?
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 11:21 AM
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Yep when you setup the CAN output to the AQ-1 it will tell you which channels are being outputted through the CAN just make sure to wire up the sensors to those ADCR outputs.
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 05:52 AM
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Looks like the S300 guys just got a little help

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...1#post46742561
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 06:32 AM
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Looks like the S300 guys just got a little help

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...1#post46742561
Stupid a$$ Hondata. I have been talking with them for the last couple weeks and they kept saying nope nope nope, far away far away and now this. Classic.
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 07:03 AM
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Exact same thing happened to me with the KPro 3 upgrade. Bought extra gauges thinking I wouldn't have inputs for stuff and bam...8 additional inputs.
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 08:25 AM
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I told you it was coming..

They have a policy on releasing that info to the public, they dont want it to turn out like the CPR ordeal again..
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 08:50 AM
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I told you it was coming..

They have a policy on releasing that info to the public, they dont want it to turn out like the CPR ordeal again..
I know and I was trying to get them to wiggle with a ball park date and they wouldn't budge. They were hinting months away.....Not Monday. haha
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 07:32 PM
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I have some on order already.. Should have one in a car next week to start using those extra inputs.. Hopefully they have some filtering in the software..
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 08:20 PM
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I have some on order already.. Should have one in a car next week to start using those extra inputs.. Hopefully they have some filtering in the software..
Any idea how the upgrade program works? Do I send in my current s300, then pay the $250 and they send me s300 v2?
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 10:25 PM
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I have not seen any information about an upgrade process. The newsletter I received just talks about the unit..

Available Monday, the S300 version 2 brings more features, better reliability, and double the datalogging for the same price.
- Eight 0-5V analog inputs with adapter cable
- Digital inputs
- On board storage of calibration
- Twice the memory for up to 2 hours datalogging
- New Ram technology for greater reliability
- No replacement battery needed for lower ownership cost
- Additional security features.
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 06:03 AM
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No traction control or use of more injectors??
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by utahturbosohc
Any idea how the upgrade program works? Do I send in my current s300, then pay the $250 and they send me s300 v2?
Or sell your current one for ~$375-400 and buy the new one.
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 12:49 PM
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I have not seen any information about an upgrade process. The newsletter I received just talks about the unit..

Available Monday, the S300 version 2 brings more features, better reliability, and double the datalogging for the same price.
- Eight 0-5V analog inputs with adapter cable
- Digital inputs
- On board storage of calibration
- Twice the memory for up to 2 hours datalogging
- New Ram technology for greater reliability
- No replacement battery needed for lower ownership cost
- Additional security features.
This is what I was talking about. Maybe its just a Phearable thing. They posted about it in the engine management section.
http://www.phearable.net/shoppingcar...ade-p-366.html

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Or sell your current one for ~$375-400 and buy the new one.
That too, But even that is hard to do now a days. After all the fakes coming out people have either been to afraid to buy because people arent always honest and they could end up with a fake, or the cheap asses that dont want to buy it becuase they would rather buy the fake to save cash because they say it works just as well...

I have seen both scenarios a lot lately
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 04:58 PM
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Thats the first I've heard about that, I'll call Hondata Monday..
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