hmm Well Well
It has come to attention thru varios sources
Paul Enfantis Reguested that the PR cars be inspected after they had already passed tech and weight and made runs something that almost never happens in our sport.....Seems Paul could not believe these $40K Little short wheels base cars
where running so fast 7.32 and kicking there quarter $Mill 2JZ ***'s

Justin's car Trapped 187MPH
Now Paul and Justin (have a witness that was next to Paul and crew during Justins elimination pass and It is VERY clear he and Justin are going to be pushing for rule changes next year and infact NHRA is already gathering info to implent said changes........

Interesting bias They saw the "potential" with Mat Kellers 167MPH run but are blind to Justin's 187MPH potential?

NHRA needs to decide if they want a 2 car 2jz race like they had pretty much last year
or have the cars the packs the stands and bring the most excitement to the paying fans..

I'm sure since most of you are Piston lovers and don't give a damm about rotaries
or even if they compete
But since this is the only forum NHRA reads
I'll post my communities 2cents

 

Im still in shock that many rotaries actually made it down the track...why throw rules against them now?

 

Modified this weekend had to have been one of the best classes in sport compact racing, ever. What was it, 7.3 #1 qualifier and 7.4 #8? Why would you mess with that?

 

i grew up around the rotary guys here, and i love to watch them especially with the short wheel base they are using, just more exciting to watch, it is unfortunate that it happened but, hey when you have a sponsors to protect then i guess he went that way, but maybe he saw something that was wrong who knows, but i think nhra has a good hold on whats going on.

 

I agree. I wasnt too shocked on the amount of cars I saw that made the event. I'm more in shock about the lack of events we had with them. I went down to Orlando for a BOTI race and that scared the living **** out of me seeing how some of those cars were built.

Going into this past weekend, i told my buddy who went with me that we'd see at least one wreck this weekend. and we did. But it didnt seem to have to do with a poorly built car, just a driver whose car got away (at least, thats what i can guess from where i saw at the top of the track).

I dont think it shows any favortism by the NHRA teching the cars Sat night. If I were the NHRA and the cars were running as fast as they did and Paul and Justing wanted them teched again because they felt unsafe, I would have made the same decision.

As per rule changes, i think as long as they take enough time to tech the cars as to ensure they are safe to go that fast, i dont think they should make any. the field was so damn close and fast, I'd wager to say this weekend that was most popular class by far.

just my $.02
-Francisco

 

Its all going to change next year anyway when the FWD cars come over and get into the mix.. they are not as quick as the Modified cars are yet anyway so Im sure there are going to be some changes regardless ....

 

Trust Me.... it wasn't just Paul complaining. Keep in mind that the #1 points leader didn't make it into the show.which bumped him right out of the championship.

People dont realize that these guys race 7 days a week 365 a year on shitty tracks. So what do you think is gonna happen when they come to an awesome track like E-TOWN??? RECORDS Drop which they did. Those cars run 7.50's all day on the worst tracks that you can possibly think of.

And you can't take nothing away from the..... they are running a twin disk clutch,not an adjustable like the rest of the U.S. cars. They are running a 89"-93" wheel base when all the other cars are running 103"-106" wheel base.

****!!!! those cars are not even running a rear spoiler for down force.

Just face it....those guys know their **** and build awesome cars.


Our car ws also a part of the "witch hunt". so i know alot more that went on then most. but all i can say it was really F'ed up,but then again i'm glad it happend so now everyone know that those cars are 100% legit.

I'm gonna close this off by saying what everyone used to say to us when we had the Corolla.......TIME TO STEP UP!!!!!!!


Modified by BoogieDownBrown at 10:06 PM 10/2/2006

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Suprdave &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im still in shock that many rotaries actually made it down the track...why throw rules against them now? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Haha yea me too. I thought there was an age cut off of 87? I not a big fan of those paticular cars as they often seem dangerious too me. Seen to many at local tracks hit walls and other cars, plus they are just annoying in the pits. But with a full field I am sure NHRA likes that, but they make rule changes every year so don't be all shocked.

 

trust me tho....these are not your run of the mill tubed midget cars...Those are full blown built Pro chassis....They live and brief short wheel base and they know how to build and tune a chassis with said short wheel base

Very exciting to watch no doubt!
Thanks to Improvements in Apex seal material(weak link in rotaries) EFI and Turbo tech advancements Rotaries are making a strong comeback....Why bring'em down? after all the hard work and R&D.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Suprdave &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im still in shock that many rotaries actually made it down the track...why throw rules against them now? </TD></TR></TABLE> LOLOL I Wasnt there but i heard the backfire Battles all the way in CT The fast ones are built Really well though i give them credit on That, But there to Fuking loud

 

its pretty bad when your pointing fingers calling people cry babies. if i had $1 for every time you whined about Jesus's car in the last 2 years i would have had the budget to race this year.

but to put things in perspective if i was paulie or justin i would have done the same thing. those cars are dangerous enough going that fast and being that short on wheelbase. if i had a 200k+ racecar in the other lane id want NHRA to double check the safety of those cars too.

 

[QUOTE=Scott Mohler]Its all going to change next year anyway when the FWD cars come over and get into the mix.. they are not as quick as the Modified cars are yet anyway so Im sure there are going to be some changes regardless .... [/

that may not happen !!!!

 

8 HT 8 PFWD 8 Modified

 

well just a little info we had one of these little cars on our dyno. it was in the 1000whp rang & oh it was a turbo4 cylinder. i belive he is going in mod. ive alrady seen a mid 7sec run 3rd time out to the track. so watch out.

 

Only reason NHRA did the tear down of those cars was to see what turbo sizing and setups these mystery cars were running so they know what rules have to be adjusted to make the racing fair for everyone. So next year maybe those guys can come over and run a full season and Paul/Justin/Dee all have setups that are competitive. Its so modified will have a turn out like that every weekend. Now lets look at it from Dee's view his best pass to date is a 7.4 not to sure. He didnt even qualify and was bumped from 1st to 4th in points in one weekend. Just because all these other cars came in and set the bump so low. Its a good thing but let Dee loose weight or go bigger on the turbo and give the 6cyl the 60mm turbos and well see some good low 7 sec racing.

 

These guys have been racing starlets, 1200s, ke20 /ke30 corollas, 510s, mazda glc and Rx series cars longer than some of us can walk.

Safety wasn't the issue with Paule. Licks was. I heard when Justin got his **** handed to him in the semis Paule and his antourage were so upset they left the stands in a huff.

 

if nhra rules against theese cars I WILL NEVER AGAIN SET FOOT ON ANY OTHER NHRA EVENT. expletive this.


CRY BABIES.


dude just so you know the UPR in MAYAGUEZ, PR is one of the most prestigeous schools of engineering. NASA recruits guys from there all the time. not only that but in all the caribean it is probably and arguably the best engineering school. PR knows what they doin man. just cuz all ur probably most exposed to from the latin american comunity around YOU is a low income sport compact car enthusiast. doesnt mean that's what should be expected from the latin american comunity in the track also. this is bullshit if theese two supra guys are really crying. they should just build some starlets if they wanna compete, ****, the starlets n candunguitos were here first anyways.


Eddie Rosado

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by E Town DSM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Only reason NHRA did the tear down of those cars was to see what turbo sizing and setups these mystery cars were running so they know what rules have to be adjusted to make the racing fair for everyone. So next year maybe those guys can come over and run a full season and Paul/Justin/Dee all have setups that are competitive. Its so modified will have a turn out like that every weekend. Now lets look at it from Dee's view his best pass to date is a 7.4 not to sure. He didnt even qualify and was bumped from 1st to 4th in points in one weekend. Just because all these other cars came in and set the bump so low. Its a good thing but let Dee loose weight or go bigger on the turbo and give the 6cyl the 60mm turbos and well see some good low 7 sec racing.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Why is it such a big deal that these cars came over to race.Yeah i know it fucked things up from a points perspective.But what if these cars were just local cars or cars that people had built and finally brought out to race??

It seems like as always in this sport....people always have to cry and whine about things they dont understand. And the people crying need to realize the fish pond is about to get bigger fish. So being on top every weekend can't happen anymore. Those people that are crying are the ones that are happy race 3-5 cars every weekend...to me that straight B.S.



Modified by BoogieDownBrown at 4:31 PM 10/11/2006

 

Lets we forget Paul went 7.3 in Moroso
just a few weeks ago
so where is the gap? between the cars
none

with a 187MPH trap they have the potential to run 7.2's
with a 60mm turbo its going to be in the 7.1's (they have run 6's in private testing)
and then we are going to have what he had last year when they scared away most of the attenders
Rosado racing, Gonzalez Racing, caneca and so on and on.......

go ahead NHRA ruin a class that is bring in the most excitement to the "paying" fans
DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THE FANS not
for the vested interest of a couple racers with deep pockets

 

i was supprised with the tech inspection, but was actually relieved that all were on the level. i hope they dont change the rules. i liked the turnout. i am used to seeing starlets at my home track always breaking and even the announcer gets into making fun of them. watching modified qualifying was bad ***. i was crewing for a sfwd team and got to stand under the tower while they were staging. all i can say is wow. to the haters, get over it, the stands were packed and the vast majority of us had a ball. only thing i was disappointed about was shep didnt qualify, but thats racing.

my wondering is what now for the k powered cars because of what was accomplished with a b series. he hee......

 

Efantis crew

 

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just a few weeks ago
so where is the gap? between the cars
none
</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just an FYI, they also took those turbos away from Paul after that race - i.e. see the new rule changes that were just posted in September - they were clipped and thus the reason for his drop in performance this past weekend. He was back on the 52mm turbos. He will have new ones for Pomona. I hear that the PR cars are going to Pomona also...should be a dogfight out there. I personally loved seeing the cars go down the track, and I know that Paul likes seeing them too, but don't restrict the other cars so bad that they can't compete now (ala Hot Rod). Remember, it's not just turbo size either, the starlets get to weigh 800 lbs less than the 6 Cyls too.

 

2007 should be fun.


Brent Rau is putting the front upper aprons in so he can run in the Modified class. So, what needs to be done to slow down the only 6.9x car out there?

 

So people bitch cause they are getting out ran
Same old same old. There should be a ton of cars in mod. next year. How many pro rear cars will be out next year 2?

 

im a BIG FWD guy, but i really think that profwd and the doorslammer puerto rican 3/4 chassis short wheelbase cars are the two best cars in drag racing, period. I'd much rather see two 16 car fields in each class duking it out, then going to gatornationals and watching the fuel cars run. But im weird and like pro mods better than top fuel too, so take that for what it's worth.

Im a big fan of Dee and JHump(and I can understand those three guy's frustration for jumbling up the points chase so much in one race), but watching those PR cars come up and dominate was really awesome. If you've ever been to the tracks down there, you'd be seriously amazed at the shear number of cars going at it, and the times they're putting down. Those cars arent the hacked up starlets you see running around the local tracks in Florida, they're the real deal. Sucks for Dee, but a 7.4 bump was probably the most exciting thing that has happened to sport compact racing, EVER. The only other cooler thing would be a 7.4 bump in pfwd.

NHRA, please dont bundle up these two classes next year!!!!