<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Albert R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">isn't everybodys rex light?</TD></TR></TABLE>

for sure.

 

ok lets C how much does the top ten fastest street class car weight?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Albert R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">isn't everybodys rex light?</TD></TR></TABLE>
mine is 2180 with me in it, i'm 245lbs

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Albert R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok lets C how much does the top ten fastest street class car weight?</TD></TR></TABLE>1.alllmotor-89crx 10.98@125mph / 1960lbs. w/driver / CA
3.jdmoutlaw-88crx 11.09@122.26mph / 1925lbs. w/driver / MD
2.Airshifter/MAX_CFM-93 civic 11.11@122.3mph / 1965lbs. w/driver / NC
4.Albert R-88crx 11.23@120mph / 1920lbs. w/driver /CA
5.1fstEP3-EK 11.281@120.94mph / 2150lbs / VA
6.bob menuts-crx 11.31@119mph / 2000lbs. w/driver / VA
7.MHRacing-310-EG hatch 11.41@120.8mph /2080lbs. /CA
8.B20vtec86crx-86 crx 11.51@120mph / 1850lbs. / MI
9.Rusty Shackleferd-crx 11.52@118.8mph / ? / CA
10.Race *****-EG hatch 11.56@119mph ? / CA
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1413683

 

6 of 10 top fastest street car r crx's! u smokey2.0 could still go way down with a cr-x!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Albert R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">6 of 10 top fastest street car r crx's! u smokey2.0 could still go way down with a cr-x!</TD></TR></TABLE>i probably could, but like i said before i don't need car parts all over my garage LOL. i also wouldn't like to see the cars in the class, look like nothing i would run in the street! if i wanted to run a drag car, i would run pro stock

 

word!

 

and that is the reason IDRC made true all-motor street class and also NHRA!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Albert R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and that is the reason IDRC made true all-motor street class and also NHRA!</TD></TR></TABLE>do they have minimum weights and lbs per cc?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Albert R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well i haven't read the whole topic(sorry), but what does bob menuts think the rules should be?</TD></TR></TABLE>i really don't care about the rules they are fine with me but after talking with people in the my area there where some good points made so i thought i would get something going the only fair way i could think of was a weight by displacement rule if nopi comes out and says everybody has to weigh 2300lb ill build a 101mm motor so how does that help the small guys in the class who cant afford big motors it doesn't i just want things to be fair but there will all ways be people who want some thing for nothing 2000 nopi 2010 idrc i weigh 250/241 depends on the time of year

 

do u guys think that a street car would ever runs tens consistent with lb's+cc's rule, maybe, but with like u said, 101 crank i'm 95 still not there but soon. the bigger, the bigger problems.

 

one thing I think that is being forgotten is that COMP4 is not a Honda only class (even though it seems to play out that way). I think you would need rules that could apply to any brand car that shows.......(nissan, vw etc)

 

probly not but it would even the feild the class will step up it just takes time im not woried about runing 10s as much as i am about being fair to the rest of the cars i dont whant to build 101mm time bombs but iff they make every body wheigh the same your going to have to keep up with new motors/cars some how

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Albert R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">traveling is not cheap at all, unless every passenger pitches in.(ya rite..ha) I think one has to sacrifice when there young, to work on making a living, and then when one finally has the career, then comes the hobby. Alot of fast fast cars, have older drivers...I think </TD></TR></TABLE>


i wish i would have done it that way....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bob menuts &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">probly not but it would even the feild the class will step up it just takes time im not woried about runing 10s as much as i am about being fair to the rest of the cars i dont whant to build 101mm time bombs but iff they make every body wheigh the same your going to have to keep up with new motors/cars some how </TD></TR></TABLE>Thats the samething that I'm saying. I agree 100%.


2006 I'll have a stroker in a gutted out EG as light as I can get it, Because that's what its going to take for me to run in that class. I've run well with my B20 stock stroke but this year I have to set up if I want to be competive in the class.

Drag racing cheap? I make 50k+ a year and its still hard for me to be able to afford the parts needed to compete in the class. Do you think that you should have to spend 10k - 20k on a motor to race for a $400 pot?

 

[QUOTE=nonvtecallmotor] Do you think that you should have to spend 10k - 20k on a motor to race for a $400 pot? [/QUOTE

1% of racers actually make money from racing

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NATURAL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> [/QUOTE

1% of racers actually make money from racing</TD></TR></TABLE> But if rule allow you chould race with less money spent and it could force some of the others to racer with the budget to go to ProStock. Which some of the Comp4 cars are already fast enough to run in prostock class.

If the rules stay the same that will be fine with me. I'll just spend the money that I need to run those kind of numbers, but some people cant afford to build that type of engine and that where I feel that the mistake is made by no rules in the class.

 

the thing is there is that one rich guy with money to burn that always ***** up the equation....he doesnt care if he wins or loses money.....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nonvtecallmotor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> But if rule allow you chould race with less money spent and it could force some of the others to racer with the budget to go to ProStock. Which some of the Comp4 cars are already fast enough to run in prostock class.

If the rules stay the same that will be fine with me. I'll just spend the money that I need to run those kind of numbers, but some people cant afford to build that type of engine and that where I feel that the mistake is made by no rules in the class.</TD></TR></TABLE>

by forcing all the faster guys into the pro stock is just puttin them in the same shoes ur in now but just in a diff class...they will be off pace with the rest of the pack and not have enough money to keep up...so what is that accomplishing?so the only person that benefits is YOU because ur able to keep up with the comp4 class now

 

Like Max said, look back through this post at all the well known "street" all motor cars and none of them are complaining. Its not because they are on top and don't want people chasing them, its because they worked their way through the problems, found ways to make power, and found a way to pay for it all.

Most importantly, they made the decision to do what it takes to race that class!!

When I built my car a year ago, I had two options; A&gt;build a "fun" daily driver that was quick, or B&gt; Build a bad *** car to run with (at the time) Richie, Jeff, Howard, and Saul.

I chose B. If you can't build a car that is fast enough (because of $$ or technology) then go race a "true" street class, or brackets. The answer is not to slow people down by limiting engine size/technology.

The street class is really just an entry level class for SPORTSMAN to hone their skills, and provide an alternative to building full blown, tube cars on meth. and in a round-about way keep big sponsor money out of the class so the average Joe can in-fact race. With that said...RACING IS NOT CHEAP.

I am in favor, however, of imposing some kind of weight limit or discplacement/weight directive. We do need newer cars in the class, both Honda and non-Honda.

 

The guys that are running low 11s aren't doing it because they have a larger budget than the guys running high 11s and low 12s. That class is for built motors in lightweight streetcars. They just have that combination working better for them. You can't expect to go into that class and be competitive with a car making 230whp and weighing 2200 lbs.

The fast guys can't be bumped up to Pro Stock. Pro Stock is no longer a class where you take a fast street car and put lexan and fiberglass on it and go fast. It will probably take quicker than a 10.50 to make the field.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CompressionFed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I am in favor, however, of imposing some kind of weight limit or discplacement/weight directive. We do need newer cars in the class, both Honda and non-Honda.</TD></TR></TABLE>


That's all I would like to see myself. If not, this class will continue to be dominated by CRX's and EG's simply because they are several hundred pounds lighter.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CompressionFed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you can't build a car that is fast enough (because of $$ or technology) then go race a "true" street class, or brackets. The answer is not to slow people down by limiting engine size/technology.

I am in favor, however, of imposing some kind of weight limit or discplacement/weight directive. We do need newer cars in the class, both Honda and non-Honda.</TD></TR></TABLE>



Weight per displacement will be too difficult to monitor and too time consuming for the street classes.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1fstEP3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">



Weight per displacement will be too difficult to monitor and too time consuming for the street classes.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed, plus I know you can make about 275+ horsepower with a 2.0L k-series and I don't think you can do that with a 2.0L b-series as easy or as reliable.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4piston &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The guys that are running low 11s aren't doing it because they have a larger budget than the guys running high 11s and low 12s. That class is for built motors in lightweight streetcars. They just have that combination working better for them. You can't expect to go into that class and be competitive with a car making 230whp and weighing 2200 lbs.

The fast guys can't be bumped up to Pro Stock. Pro Stock is no longer a class where you take a fast street car and put lexan and fiberglass on it and go fast. It will probably take quicker than a 10.50 to make the field.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually in 2004 Insane Jeff Reinhold did just that, made 230whp and think the car was right at 2200lbs also, becomes chassis prep and driver skill really. He was actually very competitive and on top of the class all year, you win some you lose some