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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 06:40 AM
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these are pro2"s all the intake vtec lobes look like this. is this normal or do i have a problem? motor has maybe 10hrs dyno time and about 8 runs.
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 06:51 AM
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Dats no good.... U gotta send them back to skunk2 I had the same problem and it turn out to be a set of defective cams and they replaced them
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 06:53 AM
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You definitely have a problem, contact S2 immediately.
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 07:00 AM
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how much clearance in between 3 coils at full lift? LMA not bottoming out before full lift? That is not a cam problem, that's something with valvetrain or LMA
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by daboogy
Dats no good.... U gotta send them back to skunk2 I had the same problem and it turn out to be a set of defective cams and they replaced them

defective? Explain...
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 07:24 AM
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What oil do you run?
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 07:31 AM
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What oil do you run?
i started on motul 5w30 then got help from renegade fuels and switched to there 5w20 race oil.
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 07:34 AM
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every single lobe exhaust and low cam intake all still look brand new. but the vtec lobe literally look like there just soft and almost smashing the metal. there is shards of metal all around the lobe. not just at the full lift point
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 07:42 AM
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The vtec lobe sees twice the load, from both springs.

We used to have those problems all the time until we switched to brad Penn oil. It's not the cams fault. Insufficient oil and a lot of spring pressure will kill cams and rockers.
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by tony1
The vtec lobe sees twice the load, from both springs.

We used to have those problems all the time until we switched to brad Penn oil. It's not the cams fault. Insufficient oil and a lot of spring pressure will kill cams and rockers.

how long would it take to get a case from you?
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 07:54 AM
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its actually kinda funny your replied to this, the only reason i found this out was because i just bought 2 of your cam trigger kits and was in the process of switching both my cars over to cop!
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 07:55 AM
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I always keep BP in stock.
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 08:00 AM
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well i just pulled the cams out and it ruined the vtec rocker pads on the intake side. does that still sound like a oil problem?
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 08:02 AM
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Good luck with the customer service. Ive gotten 2 defective parts from Skunk 2. Ill Never buy their parts again.
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 08:08 AM
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Still oil. Cams and rockers both get beat up.
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 08:13 AM
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Still oil. Cams and rockers both get beat up.
well i hope thats it. im going to try to salvage the cams and put some extra rockers i have in it and will prob be ordering some oil from you monday. i just cant believe it did that much damage that fast. what weight do you recommend for a drag only car. built to all honda spec clearances? bearings anyway.
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 08:30 AM
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I recommend 20/50.

Keep in mind, if the cam surface isn't smooth, it's much more likely to damage another set of rockers even with good oil. Just think about what's going on, it's metal on metal with a thin film of oil preventing wear. A rough cam will 'cut' through the oil.
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by tony1
I recommend 20/50.

Keep in mind, if the cam surface isn't smooth, it's much more likely to damage another set of rockers even with good oil. Just think about what's going on, it's metal on metal with a thin film of oil preventing wear. A rough cam will 'cut' through the oil.
well i guess there goes my chance at going to the wcf in nov...
unless anybody out there has a pro2 intake cam they would like to get rid of
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 10:23 AM
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so what oil to run on a street engine with agressive cams? since all modern oil have been depleted of zddp...i hear people use motorcycle oil,rotella diesel oil,valvoline vr1....i need a high zinc dino oil till i break in the engine...then ill switch to royal purple or joegibbs..

no pro2 cams but i got rockers....we can work out a deal if interested...
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by cibao2ner
so what oil to run on a street engine with agressive cams? since all modern oil have been depleted of zddp...i hear people use motorcycle oil,rotella diesel oil,valvoline vr1....i need a high zinc dino oil till i break in the engine...then ill switch to royal purple or joegibbs..

no pro2 cams but i got rockers....we can work out a deal if interested...
i got several sets of spare rockers out of **** heads but thanks
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