Just kinda wondering if anybody is using a cable trans in their drag B-series cars... I plan on boosting my car next spring but worried about throwing too much power at a cable trans. I know i would be better off getting a hydro trans, but just curious if anyones throwing decent power at one and if so what kinda of luck are you having? LMK, thx in advance.

Dallas

 

I used a big sline cable case with gsr1-2 and ls 345 with an ls final drive I personally think its the ticket to using a stock trans... I think the cable case is stronger. My car made somewhere around 800-875 hp trapped 155ish regularly dyno numbers don't mean much especially in colorado so it made whatevr my trap suggests lol. The trans needed syncros a couple times a year but whatevr I had it apart all the time so it didn't matter to me. Never stripped a gear and never broke a case ran like this for two years.

 

I went 8.85 @ 165 on a big shaft cable trans. made 850ish, 26's on a 2060lb car

 

I'm currently using a small shaft cable trans with about 660whp. Only upgrades I've done is a Quaife diff and Gear-Speed carbon coated synchros. Been using this same trans for several years with no issues/breakages (knocks on wood) and just regular fluid changes (10w-30).

 

The thing that sucks about the cable trannys is there are none with dual syncros on the second gear. I always had problems shifting to second under a lot of load. The gsr gears are the same as ls so its super easy to change them out... once I did that I stopped having problems car was still slow lol but that was my shitty track tuning. I don't remeber for sure but I think I had to use a hydro gsr main shaft. With hydro ls 345 main shaft gears there is a cool chart on ffsquads tech site that is somewhat acurate only problem I found was that ls 3rds had a different amount of teeth from one year to another but its not to hard to figure out once you get into it. Doesn't hurt to have a ton of tranny parts either.

 

What are you guys using cable trannies doing for a speed sensor for boost control?

 

I just popped out the piece that the cable goes into and put a speed sensor in there.

I am using a cable trans on a 600+HP sohc. Zero issues. I am using an oem slave cyl to make it hydro and not have to deal with a cable

 

jon on a cable trans you just do a electronic vss and wire pin it to ecu same as i did for aem

 

only problem with a drag cable trans is breaking cables from my twin disk i keep a spare with me at the track

 

Oh sweet. That's simple enough. Has anyone used the Tilton hydraulic release bearing setup in a cable car?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TIL-61-7720/?rtype=10

According to this, it fits 92-01 integras but I feel like they have the years wrong and should say 94-01.

 

I never had problems with my cable except when it was adjusted wrong.... I also used and electronic speedo... never used the speedo for boost control though.

 

Same here, I use an electronic VSS, but do boost by gear.

 

electronic VSS with BBG here too

 

I ran boost by gear on Neptune with the stock cluster and cable vss in my 90 Integra using the output from the cluster. Eventually I converted to a hydro GSR tranny and still used the cable vss in it.

 

The speedo cable is in the way of my scattershield, plus I don't care for the looped power steering line on the housing. It's not a street car so losing the speedo is no big deal to me. I'll be using a tunerview so I figure theres a way to read speed off of the electronic vss. If not it doesn't matter. I like this idea the best.

 

I love my tunerview, i could have that and a tach in the cluster and be happy.

 

wow thx for the response guys!!! Just an FYI, i plan on using a small spline B16 tranny with gear-speed cc syncros in my DA.... And the LS will be on 15lbs. The only thing i guess im worried about is detonating the diff and bein SOL..... They recently stopped making sleeves, hubs and other replacment parts for the 90-93 cable trannys. U guys think i will be ok? opinions plz!!!!

 

Small spline is 90-91 trannys... I would suggest a big spline trans small splines are less common and obviously use different disks so if u end up having to replace it later u might have to buy different disks. Also I dunno how everyone else feels about this but we have welded tons of diffs and never had one break I wouldn't do it over 850ish hp but they work and u don't have to worry about grenading the tranny if done correctly. You can use a gear set out of a 99 si trans in the 92-93 case and have the same ratios as the old b16 trans and I'm not positive but I think u get the dual syncro 2nd gear hub with the newer gear set.

 

Less common? tell me about it...I have a brand new comp clutch stage 4 small spline clutch that i can't get rid of, no one wants it.

 

I ran the small spline cable trans for years and only ever grenaded diffs and axles. I still have three of them in my garrage. I have converted the car to hydro and am much happier.

 

Yea I have a set of small spline discs for a comp twin with like 10 passes on them... what a waste

 

hey, if there so un-common ill gladly take sum1s half used small spline clutch kit. lol, gonna be needin one here soon

 

Best thing about the big spline 92-93 tranny is you can use hydro gears inside of it. Any 92-01 B series gear will fit. Where as the 90-91, youre stuck with 90-91. Not to mention the clutch disc.

You can fit a D series cable VSS in a B series. Same gear and all. Works great, and itll fit with the Golden Eagle scattershield. Its MUCH smaller, and doesnt have the cooler line on it.

I made 550ish (went 140) with a big spline cable. 93 YS1 GSR tranny, with LS 1st and 2nd, YS1 GSR 3rd and 4th, with an LS 4.266 FD. Never had any issues.

Nayr, the 92-93 YS1 GSR (B17) had a dual cone 2nd gear synchro. B16 hydro, as well as all GSR trannies had dual cone 2nd. YS1 GSR is also identical gear ratios to a 99-00 B16. Older 90-91 is a "unique" gear ratio I havent seen in ANY other tranny. It has SUPER short gears, with the 4.266 final. Where as all of the other shorter geared trannies have a 4.4 final to shorten them up.

 

if i cld find one for cheap, i would buy a 92-93 GSR in a heart beat, but nobodys got em in good condition and if they do they want a million dollars for em. I fould a 90-91 B16 trans that grinds at high rpm for $250 and i figured id replace the syncros and call it good. So again i say, if u got a spare 92-93 GSR trans thats good..... i want it!!!! lol

 

That's good to know, but I'm wanting an electronic vss for boost control purposes. Instead of just controlling boost by gear, you can also control it by speed so I'd like that option just in case it's needed to get the power down.