ANY 10-11 SECOND NITROUS SETUPS?
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thats perty sweet on the 170shot above...
i had a type s based 12.0.1cr h22 prelude on a 100shot direct port itb's made 338whp on the spray and a 11.3@127mph...had the car on the dyno with a 150shot and made399whp with some other mod's still on itb's but cracked the ring lands on 2 pistons durring the pull...
here is a vid of the 11.3 run http://youtu.be/M4dxCNs6O2c
that was towards the end of last year
i have a new set-up getting ready for this year
g23 based motor
13.5cr
xcessive im
80mil tb
idc1100cc injectors
bosch o44pump
e85
aem ems
dual stage nitrous totalling 200shot
hopeing for 460ish whp or more...
hopeing for 10's atleast too
here is the motor
getting ready too plum the nitrous soon and just waiting on rods for the motor
i had a type s based 12.0.1cr h22 prelude on a 100shot direct port itb's made 338whp on the spray and a 11.3@127mph...had the car on the dyno with a 150shot and made399whp with some other mod's still on itb's but cracked the ring lands on 2 pistons durring the pull...
here is a vid of the 11.3 run http://youtu.be/M4dxCNs6O2c
that was towards the end of last year
i have a new set-up getting ready for this year
g23 based motor
13.5cr
xcessive im
80mil tb
idc1100cc injectors
bosch o44pump
e85
aem ems
dual stage nitrous totalling 200shot
hopeing for 460ish whp or more...
hopeing for 10's atleast too
here is the motor
getting ready too plum the nitrous soon and just waiting on rods for the motor
Nice manifold..i was thinking about getting a Magnus to see if it makes more power without adding N2o..the good thing i could use it for my gt4094r build next year
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Re: ANY 10-11 SECOND NITROUS SETUPS?
I think ur asking to make a mess on the track.... thats just if ur asking me.
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Re: ANY 10-11 SECOND NITROUS SETUPS?
My setup is a stock b16a2 with gsr cams on a b16 tranny spraying a 75 shot off the line. 22" slicks 12.8 @ 105 mph 1.8 60ft 91 sir'd Ef hatch
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what pistons are you running? max dome or pct's?
stock b16 on 150shot is cake but 12:1 is some serious dome, i'd be skeptical off the reliability on pump. if you're running pct's you can run a thicker HG and go for it
just start out on a 100 shot and work your way up better safe then sorry
stock b16 on 150shot is cake but 12:1 is some serious dome, i'd be skeptical off the reliability on pump. if you're running pct's you can run a thicker HG and go for it
just start out on a 100 shot and work your way up better safe then sorry
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Re: ANY 10-11 SECOND NITROUS SETUPS?
Here is my setup, sleeved 84mm b16 block, wiseco 12:1 pistons, pnp pr3 head with s2p2 supertech valvetrain,aebs im, ebay 4-1 header with 2.5 mandrel bent exhaust system. It made 198hp 124tq on 93 pumpgas
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Hey im no noob to tuning for turbo power but i am a total noob to nitrous. Im doing a stock sleev GSR 10:1 pistons eagle rods. 1000cc injectors, walbro 400, and trying to control two stages of nitrous through hondata. my question is what size dry shot, requires i use a direct port setup? i was going to run the two nitrous lines for the two stages into a single fogger near the throttle body (jet normally used for fuel and nitrous, but in this case it would just be the two dry stages since fuel will be taken care of by the hondata nitrous compensation maps) ... so for first and second gear only the one solenoid would be open to the fogger and for third and fourth the second solenoid would open to the fogger. my concern is uneven consumption across the intake manifold. is this a concern with a dry shot? would #4 require a per cylinder compensation in hondata compared to #1 because of the single point of nitrous entry? I dont mind making some minor cylinder compensations but since i cannot have those compensations only active during the nitrous engagement it will start to shitty up my power while on motor only. There are a lot of setups listed in this thread but not many say whether they are single foggers or direct port for the 175-200 shot range. how big can i go with a single point of entry? any help would be great... be gentle, this is my first time delving into the nitrous world lol. thanks guys
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Hey im no noob to tuning for turbo power but i am a total noob to nitrous. Im doing a stock sleev GSR 10:1 pistons eagle rods. 1000cc injectors, walbro 400, and trying to control two stages of nitrous through hondata. my question is what size dry shot, requires i use a direct port setup? i was going to run the two nitrous lines for the two stages into a single fogger near the throttle body (jet normally used for fuel and nitrous, but in this case it would just be the two dry stages since fuel will be taken care of by the hondata nitrous compensation maps) ... so for first and second gear only the one solenoid would be open to the fogger and for third and fourth the second solenoid would open to the fogger. my concern is uneven consumption across the intake manifold. is this a concern with a dry shot? would #4 require a per cylinder compensation in hondata compared to #1 because of the single point of nitrous entry? I dont mind making some minor cylinder compensations but since i cannot have those compensations only active during the nitrous engagement it will start to shitty up my power while on motor only. There are a lot of setups listed in this thread but not many say whether they are single foggers or direct port for the 175-200 shot range. how big can i go with a single point of entry? any help would be great... be gentle, this is my first time delving into the nitrous world lol. thanks guys
It's pretty cheap to do a dry direct port, so if I were you that's what I would do.
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now the question of durability... i am treating this way of making power just like making power with a turbo car. So just a different means of simply providing more oxygen so that i can mix more fuel and make more power. Are the cylinder pressures or temperatures any different from making equivalent power with a forced induction setup? i ask because it is very easy to make 450-500 hp with a turbo'd stock sleeve motor and have it last multiple seasons as long as you stay on top of everything. is there any reason why a 400hp nitrous stock sleeve motor cannot survive the same, given the same attention? 300hp on a completely stock gsr motor with head studs can be beat on all damn year given an adequate fuel system and tune... how about the same power with nitrous?
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yeah that seems to be the common response lol, after talking to a few people it looks like ill just be doing a direct port dry setup instead. might as well do it right since the cost is really not bad at all.
now the question of durability... i am treating this way of making power just like making power with a turbo car. So just a different means of simply providing more oxygen so that i can mix more fuel and make more power. Are the cylinder pressures or temperatures any different from making equivalent power with a forced induction setup? i ask because it is very easy to make 450-500 hp with a turbo'd stock sleeve motor and have it last multiple seasons as long as you stay on top of everything. is there any reason why a 400hp nitrous stock sleeve motor cannot survive the same, given the same attention? 300hp on a completely stock gsr motor with head studs can be beat on all damn year given an adequate fuel system and tune... how about the same power with nitrous?
now the question of durability... i am treating this way of making power just like making power with a turbo car. So just a different means of simply providing more oxygen so that i can mix more fuel and make more power. Are the cylinder pressures or temperatures any different from making equivalent power with a forced induction setup? i ask because it is very easy to make 450-500 hp with a turbo'd stock sleeve motor and have it last multiple seasons as long as you stay on top of everything. is there any reason why a 400hp nitrous stock sleeve motor cannot survive the same, given the same attention? 300hp on a completely stock gsr motor with head studs can be beat on all damn year given an adequate fuel system and tune... how about the same power with nitrous?
300hp on a stock motor is easy with nitrous.
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400hp stock sleeve car will last. You just have to tune it right. Read the plugs and make sure you don't run it too rich. Contrary to popular belief rich is not safe. Remember that timing is the killer. So start conservative on the timing and work your way up.
300hp on a stock motor is easy with nitrous.
300hp on a stock motor is easy with nitrous.
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This is a car i just tuned on pump gas.
b20vtec stock bottem end with the exception of rs machined 11:1 pistons
skunk 2 stage tuner 2 cams at 0*
stock ported head
ebay header
Tuned by me on s300. 80Shot nitrous
7.3 first pass not even going off the launch control and baby shifting, then broke 2nd gear second run. 7.3 @95mph
http://youtu.be/a64TItrYhuQ
b20vtec stock bottem end with the exception of rs machined 11:1 pistons
skunk 2 stage tuner 2 cams at 0*
stock ported head
ebay header
Tuned by me on s300. 80Shot nitrous
7.3 first pass not even going off the launch control and baby shifting, then broke 2nd gear second run. 7.3 @95mph
http://youtu.be/a64TItrYhuQ
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Re: ANY 10-11 SECOND NITROUS SETUPS?
This is a car i just tuned on pump gas.
b20vtec stock bottem end with the exception of rs machined 11:1 pistons
skunk 2 stage tuner 2 cams at 0*
stock ported head
ebay header
Tuned by me on s300. 80Shot nitrous
7.3 first pass not even going off the launch control and baby shifting, then broke 2nd gear second run. 7.3 @95mph
http://youtu.be/a64TItrYhuQ
b20vtec stock bottem end with the exception of rs machined 11:1 pistons
skunk 2 stage tuner 2 cams at 0*
stock ported head
ebay header
Tuned by me on s300. 80Shot nitrous
7.3 first pass not even going off the launch control and baby shifting, then broke 2nd gear second run. 7.3 @95mph
http://youtu.be/a64TItrYhuQ
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Re: ANY 10-11 SECOND NITROUS SETUPS?
went a 1070 with a 175 shot 2 years ago....going 9s this year...car weighed 2460..now car weighs 2240..duel stage 125 125 set threw hondata on mph..direct port dry shot ...and made some changes so should be good..will post when i go 9s
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Yes, please do post lol. Can't wait to see that. Preferably with videos
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than made 296whp with a lot of timing removed and a/fs were not even reading it was so rich. The owner of the car told me he had a 125 shot in it, but it was actually 80shot after I checked it. Then we couldn't continue so the next day went to the track, unbolted the header and ran 7.3 first pass, second pass broke second gear. A lot more in this setup.