b18pwr

My allmotor street car weighs 2150 with driver, I make aprox 240whp.
I have a b16 hydro tranny with a lsd, and 23x8x13 slicks, every once in a blue
moon i will cut a good sixty foot, but most of the time its around 1.85,
i know there are cars getting consistant 1.6x's sixty foots with about the same power. what can i do to help my cause.

JSpin

what's your suspension setup?

traction bars and a good spring/shock combo is good setup that isn't too expensive. i like the skunk2's drag launch kit personally, but there's lots of good reviews on the omnipower setup as well

b18pwr

I have full-race traction bars. I have ground controls with 900lb rear springs,
and 450 up front with tokico illuminas.

rollagti

How should the suspension setup be ?

b18pwr

bump for more info, i was hoping the jerry built guys would chime in.

revolt_allmotor

you need to have a really good alignment. I do mine with 0 toe front and a slight toe-in at the rear. and if you run the front right around -0.5 degrees camber, then when the front lifts at the launch the camber will be real close to zero so you will have the tire perfectly flat on the ground.

you also need to play around with your launch RPM. why don't you tell us a little bit more about your launches. are you bogging, spinning, if you're spinning how bad and how long/far, etc?

MadnessRacing

go with bigger slicks 24x8x13 i was getting high 1.60s and 1.70s with same horse power...

Mr.E.G.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18pwr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My allmotor street car weighs 2150 with driver, I make aprox 240whp.
I have a b16 hydro tranny with a lsd, and 23x8x13 slicks, every once in a blue
moon i will cut a good sixty foot, but most of the time its around 1.85,
i know there are cars getting consistant 1.6x's sixty foots with about the same power. what can i do to help my cause.</TD></TR></TABLE>

just out of curiosity what are you running in the quarter?

b18pwr

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.E.G. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

just out of curiosity what are you running in the quarter?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have gone as fast as 12.1 but that was with a 1.60 sixty foot, i usually get 1.85 sixty foots or so. and end up with a 12.3 or so

Professor15

with what trap speeds?

Mr.E.G.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18pwr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have gone as fast as 12.1 but that was with a 1.60 sixty foot, i usually get 1.85 sixty foots or so. and end up with a 12.3 or so </TD></TR></TABLE>

if only running a 12 second quarter in a naturally aspirated front wheel drive four cylinder is the worst thing that happens to you, then you are doing alright.

Egyptian_Kid

1992 Civic VX.
All motor with 208HP 154TQ

Omni front camber kit set at -1.5 camber and 0 toe
Six Sigma Racing Front traction bar
1000lb 6'' Eibach drag springs with Ground Control sleeves
23x8x13 M&H
LSD tranny

Consistant mid to high 1.6 60 fts.
Launching at 7200 RPMS slightly feathering the clutch

b18pwr

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.E.G. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

if only running a 12 second quarter in a naturally aspirated front wheel drive four cylinder is the worst thing that happens to you, then you are doing alright. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not saying that its the worse, thing just want to optimize my setup.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drchulo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with what trap speeds?</TD></TR></TABLE>

113mph give or take.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Egyptian_Kid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1992 Civic VX.
All motor with 208HP 154TQ

Omni front camber kit set at -1.5 camber and 0 toe
Six Sigma Racing Front traction bar
1000lb 6'' Eibach drag springs with Ground Control sleeves
23x8x13 M&H
LSD tranny

Consistant mid to high 1.6 60 fts.
Launching at 7200 RPMS slightly feathering the clutch

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Thats awesome info, i am going to try a different size slicks and play with the suspension more.

Professor15

theres definatly alot more in your car, play with the suspension,slick sizing and launching techniques.

miller

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drchulo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">theres definatly alot more in your car, play with the suspension,slick sizing and launching techniques.</TD></TR></TABLE>

shouldnt you be in school?

Professor15

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shouldnt you be in school?</TD></TR></TABLE> shouldnt you be collecting something? no school bitch, spring break

skunked

how old are your slicks?

You should hit low 1.6's all day on that setup.

revolt_allmotor

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by revolt_allmotor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you need to have a really good alignment. I do mine with 0 toe front and a slight toe-in at the rear. and if you run the front right around -0.5 degrees camber, then when the front lifts at the launch the camber will be real close to zero so you will have the tire perfectly flat on the ground.

you also need to play around with your launch RPM. why don't you tell us a little bit more about your launches. are you bogging, spinning, if you're spinning how bad and how long/far, etc?</TD></TR></TABLE>

So do you have a good alignment?

b18pwr

QUOTE=skunked]how old are your slicks?

You should hit low 1.6's all day on that setup.[/QUOTE]

slicks have about 40 passes on them, they are about a year and 3 months but
they are kept inside when in use.
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So do you have a good alignment?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea, toe is .1 + and i cant remember caster or camber, my camber kit is non adjustable, and caster is as far foward as i can go.


Modified by b18pwr at 4:11 AM 4/14/2006

b18pwr

Has anyone in here used VHT track bite or something like that.?

H25

I thought your supposed to rev it up to 9000 and drop the clutch?

b18pwr

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MHRacing-310 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thought your supposed to rev it up to 9000 and drop the clutch? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea, I wish. What type of sixty foot were you getting max, when you were running
mid elevens?

H25

hmmm, 11.53@116 I was cutting 1.57s. high 11s were 1.61s.

SPL Dan

40 passes with burnouts ?

Those things are toast man even if theres tread left . Sidewalls on slicks tend to give too much after many hard passes at the track ...

a 23x8x13 with good driving will get you into the 1.6's low 1.7's every time . I would try getting some new ones . You dont need more slick it's just going to kill your MPH ...

b18pwr

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPL Dan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">40 passes with burnouts ?

Those things are toast man even if theres tread left . Sidewalls on slicks tend to give too much after many hard passes at the track ...

a 23x8x13 with good driving will get you into the 1.6's low 1.7's every time . I would try getting some new ones . You dont need more slick it's just going to kill your MPH ...</TD></TR></TABLE>

my last set of 22's gave good traction until they were worn out.
how many passes do slicks usually last.?