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Old 04-07-2013, 06:53 AM
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Just like when pulling the frame, nice to know that!
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I can understand that, but at the same time. It needs to be a proper setup to adjust for level. Car on jack stands in my mind is worse than just sitting on wheels.
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Damn..I hope it all works out
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Originally Posted by PhilStubbs
I can understand that, but at the same time. It needs to be a proper setup to adjust for level. Car on jack stands in my mind is worse than just sitting on wheels.
As long as the floor is level the jack stands are better.
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Originally Posted by PhilStubbs
I can understand that, but at the same time. It needs to be a proper setup to adjust for level. Car on jack stands in my mind is worse than just sitting on wheels.
Thats why you get it all level and straight then weld it in and then re-adjust your suspension to where it should be if needed. If you can afford to do a cage like this a $60 re-alignment is nothing.

You guys can do what you want but if I was to have a shop do my cage and I walked in and it was on the suspension. The work would be stopped and the car would be going else where. If your still going with the bolt in setup it isn't as critical as there will be still play, but welded in you want it blocked and leveled. It's right in the NHRA rule book.
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Originally Posted by tepid1
As long as the floor is level the jack stands are better.
Doesn't that just move the point the car is flexing from though?

At least if the car is on it's wheels it's closer to being supported near the major mass (engine) instead of being bent by lever action.
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If your still going with the bolt in setup it isn't as critical as there will be still play, but welded in you want it blocked and leveled. It's right in the NHRA rule book.
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I'm looking through the sections now trying to find it. Might have actually been the installation instructions I read back when I did my first cage. I just remember reading that it must be jacked and leveled.

Also going back to welding with the car sitting on the suspension even if the suspension is completely solid (I have 12k in the front and 18k in the back and mine still moves a little bit) and setup up with a little twist in it then that twist will stay there. This might be so slight you will never notice it but why take the chance for half hour of jacking, blocking and leveling the car.
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I got them welding in the plates this time around.
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post pics when they are done!
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^^^^ yes!
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They said it should be done by the end of the week. I will be at Honda day, leaving Friday morning and making the drive from WI. The sooner I get the car back the sooner I can get this project on the road. I got a **** ton of parts waiting for this seasons build. It's gonna be sick. Here's a preview






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very nice!
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nice man.
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Nice setup!
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Thanks guys. Gave up the good OL H-series Trans this season and doing H2B with a PPG dogbox. Decided to do a proper build also GE sleeved block, manly rods, custom pistons, the whole nine yards. I want to ruin people's dreams this year in the Midwest
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Dat port.
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Default Re: 8.50 and slower roll cage!!!! JUNK.

As much as I was hoping to see just how long you could push the stock sleeves and Mahles, this looks badass, should be a killer setup!
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Yeah I think the stock sleeves and Mahles were pretty much maxed out. I put down 549whp. I think it was pretty much maxed out for realibility
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Nice parts looks like a monster build hope the cage comes out just as good as the rest of the stuff you have
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Originally Posted by xbigpitax
Nice parts looks like a monster build hope the cage comes out just as good as the rest of the stuff you have

Thanks man. Now you guys could imagine the type of sickness I had when my car was dropped off the way it was. All this $$$ in parts to drop into a piece of junk made me sick. But so far so good. Should be done by Monday. I have to go up there on Thursday to sit in the car so they got my door bars in the right spot. Some more car **** for you guys...





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Go big or go home right?! Haha looks great! Can't wait to see it all done!!! Keep us updated.
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great to see someone do it right. keep it up !
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great to see someone do it right. keep it up !
Thanks man. I'm tired of getting my *** kick by all the simple minded V8 guys here. I got something for that *** this year tho. I'm sure the excuses will be flowing soon enough lol
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^^^^ that's the way to do it
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Default Re: 8.50 and slower roll cage!!!! JUNK.

Originally Posted by h-duced
Thanks guys. Gave up the good OL H-series Trans this season and doing H2B with a PPG dogbox. Decided to do a proper build also GE sleeved block, manly rods, custom pistons, the whole nine yards. I want to ruin people's dreams this year in the Midwest
Lookin forward to seeing you out there this year again we got the black si and I'm sure will setup some pretty good races.


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