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Old 02-20-2008, 10:40 PM
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Default motor and fuel swap for 87 Civic Hatch Carb

I wanna rock the old skool, real bad. But I also want speed and performance.

So i was wondering if ANYONE knows EVERYTHING I need for the fuel swap from carburated to fuel injection for a 1987 Honda Civic Hatch.
AND everything I would need to swap in a D16 A1 into it.
ANY and ALL help is greatly appreciated.


*Forgot to mention I have the D16 A1 motor and wiring harness. I need the trans and ecu, but I don't know anything else. Like my picture says, I'm a n00b to the honda car world.*


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Old 02-21-2008, 12:26 AM
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guess i should have posted during the day
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The place to get help on the 84-87 body style is http://www.redpepperracing.com/

There are several writeups on fuel injection conversions and D16a1 swaps.
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dude, do you REALLY need an answer like RIGHT NOW!!! holy crap.

anyways, like the above poster, redpepperracing.com can help you with ALL of your questions. like changing from carbed to fuel injection, where to buy parts, dropping in a d16a.... etc..
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by davens &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


The place to get help on the 84-87 body style is http://www.redpepperracing.com/

There are several writeups on fuel injection conversions and D16a1 swaps.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks, I'll check it out soon.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by E-AT_me &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude, do you REALLY need an answer like RIGHT NOW!!! holy crap.

anyways, like the above poster, redpepperracing.com can help you with ALL of your questions. like changing from carbed to fuel injection, where to buy parts, dropping in a d16a.... etc.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Good s**t.
I know, right now is a big thing for me, because internet is a hard thing to come by right now. :/
So when I get on I'm really impatient about responses or the like.
But I'm gonna post a few pics of it here in a minute, they're phone pics so they are kinda crappy.
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two things.
Join redpepperracing NOW. Its the only place on the internet with answers to ALL af your 84-87 civic/crx questions.

Best bet for you is to buy an 86-89 acura integra. Find a complete donor car and youll have everything you need to do the d16a1 swap.
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Here's some pic's of it. I was actually really lucky to find this car in it's condition.



Car has no rust, runs good with the D13 in it right now.
One of the best primer jobs, in my friends opinion, he's ever seen.
My only problem with it is of how low it is sitting.
Let me know what you guys think, and if I should convert it to fuel injected and put the d16a1 in it.
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run dual sidedrafts on a d16a.. that'd be awesome.. why don't you like it that low? you can raise the front up really easily..
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by funkmaster &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">two things.
Join redpepperracing NOW. Its the only place on the internet with answers to ALL af your 84-87 civic/crx questions.

Best bet for you is to buy an 86-89 acura integra. Find a complete donor car and youll have everything you need to do the d16a1 swap.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So, if I have this donor car, will it also have the right fuel system I need to swap in?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by E-AT_me &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">run dual sidedrafts on a d16a.. that'd be awesome.. why don't you like it that low? you can raise the front up really easily.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

If you rode in it around my town, you'd know why. &gt;:\ Can't make it over the damn speed bumps, and my catalytic converter i had to put on there so it'd pass emissions sits about 2-inches from the ground.
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is the rear on adjustable height sleeves?
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you might need a fuel tank/pump from an Si civic.
Im not sure on that though. the pump from the integra might fit on/in your current tank.
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Si's have external pumps...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by E-AT_me &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is the rear on adjustable height sleeves? </TD></TR></TABLE>

honestly I don't know what that is.
My neighbor is helping me with everything, I can ask him.
I'm like his *apprentice*. lol

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by funkmaster &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you might need a fuel tank/pump from an Si civic.
Im not sure on that though. the pump from the integra might fit on/in your current tank.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by E-AT_me &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Si's have external pumps...</TD></TR></TABLE>

So what is being said here, I'm going to need the Si Fuel tank, pump, and lines, d series axels, shift linkage and stabalizer bar, make an adapter for the clutch, and send my wiring harnesses into rewire.

I have the d16a1 motor, wiring harness, and mounts for it.

Am I possibly missing anything?
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You 100% need a d16a1 trans.

If youre going from carb, you pretty much need the entire wiring harness from an integra or an FI civic.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by funkmaster &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You 100% need a d16a1 trans.

If youre going from carb, you pretty much need the entire wiring harness from an integra or an FI civic.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh yeah forgot to put that on the list. &gt;.&lt; that would suck to do a motor swap without a trans.

&gt;

I'm going to pullapart on saturday, they have an 86 civic (don't know if it's si or not) and MANY 86-89 Integras there.
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you also need the front knuckles/brakes off the integra. You can also swap in the rear disc brakes.

youll need the transmission mount and the rear engine mount.

The axles need to be integra units.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by funkmaster &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you also need the front knuckles/brakes off the integra. You can also swap in the rear disc brakes.

youll need the transmission mount and the rear engine mount.

The axles need to be integra units.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I had planned to swap in the rear brakes.
I don't know what's wrong with me tonight, I can't focus for anything.
and trans/rear engine mounts? off of the integra?
And yeah i dont know why it says d series axels, it should say drive axels from the integra.
I guess it's just I'm learning so much in a short amount of time my head is about to explode.
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