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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 08:38 AM
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Hey guys.
Im hoping you can help me figure this out as its getting really cold up here in NY. I have a viper python alarm with a remote start in my 06 evo. I cant for the life of me get the remote start working, ive followed whats in the manual with no luck...The car isnt in gear, ebrake is up. Ive tried with both the alarm armed and unarmed.

I didnt install this system but the previous owner showed me the remote start and the turbo timer like feature both working when he handed over the car...

Heres what I get to work with


I bet it would help if I posted the model # but I wont be able to get that until i get home
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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Try one of the 2 option.

Press the lock and unlock buttons toghter. This is the turbo timer function and will start the car.

or

Press the star button twice.


It also depends on how the other owner programmed it. Also you do know that unit is not 5 speed safe. You need to be very careful with it.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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Try one of the 2 option.

Press the lock and unlock buttons toghter. This is the turbo timer function and will start the car.

or

Press the star button twice.


It also depends on how the other owner programmed it. Also you do know that unit is not 5 speed safe. You need to be very careful with it.
ok cool gonna try that first option as ive tried the 2nd option many of times..
and yes the car has the feature that wont start the car if its in any gear
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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Try this. With the engine running, activate the remote start (tap the star twice). Wait for it to give feedback that the remote start is active. Then remove the key and be careful not to hit the brake. The car should keep running until you get out and close the door. Then it should shut down and be ready to remote start.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 04:27 AM
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Here's how mine works for my civic with the car still on and ebrake up cant touch the brake or clutch gas pedal.i have to press the red or orange button twice my lights blink to let me know it's set take the key out open the door and the car will shut off by itself.
Mine was installed this way so theirs no way i can start the car in gear,
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 05:47 AM
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We need a model number to know if the remote start is compatible with a standard or if a remote start for automatics only was installed.

If it is a remote start for standard transmission then a "ready mode" sequence must be fallowed when exiting the car for the car to be remote started.

If it is a remote start for automatics only, no "ready mode" sequence is needed.

The system may be a for automatics only remote start with an adapter module for standard transmission added to it.

The other thing I would check for is an on/off switch for the remote start portion of the system. 94
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 06:03 AM
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Is the clutch switch bypassed?

I wired up my remote start but never bypassed the clutch switch, new owner bypassed it and it's working great
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 11:12 AM
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We need a model number to know if the remote start is compatible with a standard or if a remote start for automatics only was installed.

If it is a remote start for standard transmission then a "ready mode" sequence must be fallowed when exiting the car for the car to be remote started.

If it is a remote start for automatics only, no "ready mode" sequence is needed.

The system may be a for automatics only remote start with an adapter module for standard transmission added to it.

The other thing I would check for is an on/off switch for the remote start portion of the system. 94

The model above never came in a model that allowed remote start on a manual car. Unless it was used with a dei689m.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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ok so progress
first i have model 990

I dont know (think) the clutch switch is bypassed..I didnt install the system though the previous owner did show me all of this working on a nice warm spring day

With the car running and ebrake up (feet off everything) I hit the red button on the controller twice and things blink and the word start shows up on the controller.

I then turn off the car (not touching anything) get out and close the door
and try both hitting the red button 2 within 3 seconds (nothing) and hitting the lock and unlock button (nothing)

Now the interesting thing is when i get back in the car and start it up and hit the red button twice..i get the word start again on the controller and the car will stay running without the key (turbo timer mode)

thanks for all the help guys
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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The 990...


IMPORTANT! This product is designed for fuel-injected, automatic transmission vehicles only.
Installing it in a standard transmission vehicle is dangerous and is contrary to its intended use.

http://www.directeddealers.com/manua..._05-06post.pdf
http://www.directeddealers.com/manua..._05-06post.pdf

So now the question is, is the DEI 698M, [or unit like it] being used and system must be put into "ready mode", you did not say if engine kept running...

"I then turn off the car (not touching anything) get out and close the door
and try both hitting the red button 2 within 3 seconds (nothing) and hitting the lock and unlock button (nothing)"

when you did the above.

If module is used doing the above would be putting system into "ready mode", [turbo mode], if no module is being used all you are doing is putting system in turbo mode, system does not need to be put into ready mode, not very safe, to say the least.

We know the system works because you can put it into "turbo mode".

"Now the interesting thing is when i get back in the car and start it up and hit the red button twice..i get the word start again on the controller and the car will stay running without the key (turbo timer mode)"

It is possible that the neutral safety switch lead, [H3/1 black/white] was connected directly to the supplied toggle [override] switch, [no neutral safety switch in a standard] so it could still be used as an override without having to put the whole system into "valet mode", [nothing but key-less entry works], so more questions...

Is the alarm LED on solid, [valet mode]?
Does the alarm work, [system to in valet mode]?
Have you accidently turned the override switch off, [alarm will work but remote start will not]? 94
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 03:19 PM
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Default Re: Viper Python Car Alarm Remote Start

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The 990...


IMPORTANT! This product is designed for fuel-injected, automatic transmission vehicles only.
Installing it in a standard transmission vehicle is dangerous and is contrary to its intended use.

http://www.directeddealers.com/manua..._05-06post.pdf
http://www.directeddealers.com/manua..._05-06post.pdf

So now the question is, is the DEI 698M, [or unit like it] being used and system must be put into "ready mode", you did not say if engine kept running...
The very very first time I did this the engine did not stay running. I got out tried the steps with no luck...I then tried again a few minutes and thats when the engine stayed running

Originally Posted by fcm
"I then turn off the car (not touching anything) get out and close the door
and try both hitting the red button 2 within 3 seconds (nothing) and hitting the lock and unlock button (nothing)"

when you did the above.

If module is used doing the above would be putting system into "ready mode", [turbo mode], if no module is being used all you are doing is putting system in turbo mode, system does not need to be put into ready mode, not very safe, to say the least.

We know the system works because you can put it into "turbo mode".

"Now the interesting thing is when i get back in the car and start it up and hit the red button twice..i get the word start again on the controller and the car will stay running without the key (turbo timer mode)"

It is possible that the neutral safety switch lead, [H3/1 black/white] was connected directly to the supplied toggle [override] switch, [no neutral safety switch in a standard] so it could still be used as an override without having to put the whole system into "valet mode", [nothing but key-less entry works], so more questions...

Is the alarm LED on solid, [valet mode]?
Does the alarm work, [system to in valet mode]?
Have you accidently turned the override switch off, [alarm will work but remote start will not]? 94
1)I have no alarm LED (once again I didnt install or have the kit installed previous owner did)
2)Yes the Alarm works and arms
3)I dont think so im assuming the valet switch is this little black switch just hanging under the dash. Should I try pushing it (does the car need to be on or running?)

thanks for your help man
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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Default Re: Viper Python Car Alarm Remote Start

I am starting to think the car does not have remote start but just the turbo timer hooked up.
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by wrx-killer-Sti-eater
I am starting to think the car does not have remote start but just the turbo timer hooked up.
I would agree, however did the OP not say the previous owner demo the remote start...
"I didnt install this system but the previous owner showed me the remote start and the turbo timer like feature both working when he handed over the car..."

obviousBOY The push button switch is the valet/program button, the override switch is a toggle switch, [on/off]

When the previous owner showed you the remote start worked, did he have to put it into ready mode, [turn ign. key off with engine still running, get out of car, shut engine off and then remote start the car] or did he just remote start it? 94
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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I would agree, however did the OP not say the previous owner demo the remote start...
"I didnt install this system but the previous owner showed me the remote start and the turbo timer like feature both working when he handed over the car..."

obviousBOY The push button switch is the valet/program button, the override switch is a toggle switch, [on/off]

When the previous owner showed you the remote start worked, did he have to put it into ready mode, [turn ign. key off with engine still running, get out of car, shut engine off and then remote start the car] or did he just remote start it? 94

Damn I cant remember. I remember him when he showed me the turbo timer feature saying, pull the e brake up hit this (which we now know is the start button) remove key get out...I honestly cant say I remember how he did the remote start.
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 06:40 PM
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All I can suggest is find alarm brain, find the black/white, [H3/1] lead and fallow it, this lead needs to be grounded, either directly, [if no switch is used] or through a switch, [toggle switch]. 94
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 11:09 AM
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All I can suggest is find alarm brain, find the black/white, [H3/1] lead and fallow it, this lead needs to be grounded, either directly, [if no switch is used] or through a switch, [toggle switch]. 94
Cool Ill give this a shot..If I brought this to a dealer/installer is something they could fix/sort out or would they have to reprogram everything? (costing money)???

thanks for your help man i really appreciate it
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 04:12 PM
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A dealer/installer will be able to figure it out, it's also a pretty good bet they will charge you for it, we would. 94
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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Yeah well you have an illegally installed remote start system. GL.

LOCK THREAD.
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 10:55 AM
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LOCK THREAD.
HAHAHA I love it
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