from what i've heard remote start messes your car up in the long run... is it true? because i'm in the market for good alarm system and i don't know if i should get the remote start or not. i got a 90gs.

 

Elaborate on what you heard. What kind of mess do they produce? Learning owns me

 

I'm guessing it wears the engine out by starting it.

 

yea, it wears out just like using your key all the time. no it does not hurt your car if it is installed correctly. ie- crank time is set right.

 

yeah i think it was the crank time, because i was talking with my friend and he said something like it'll ruin your timing? thanks for the input.

does anyone else got anything?

 

Is it going on a auto or manual car?

 

Why should it crank longer than when using a key? They both power your starter...pretty much.

 

well it's a manual, and i really don't know, that's why i'm on here so i can get some things clear up.

 

There are starters for manual cars, which are the same as starters for auto, except the manual car starter has a feature to prevent your car from starting in gear and damage itself and others. They're good and work.

 

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I didnt know that they came out with that feature, ive seen some pretty bad damage done buy someone leaving the car in gear and then starting it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by trkd_out &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">from what i've heard remote start messes your car up in the long run... is it true? because i'm in the market for good alarm system and i don't know if i should get the remote start or not. i got a 90gs.</TD></TR></TABLE> As mentioned it will do no damage to your car if installed properly, if anything it will be better for the car if you remotely start it every time, driving a "cold" car is not good for the motor.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by trkd_out &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah i think it was the crank time, because i was talking with my friend and he said something like it'll ruin your timing? thanks for the input.

does anyone else got anything?</TD></TR></TABLE> The crank time myth, is just that a myth it assumes the remote start will crank the motor longer then you would with a key, but because the remote start is monitoring tach. it shuts off crank, [starter] the instant a certain RPM is reached, every time, exactly the same, so over the years you probably crank the motor "longer" then needed, so here again the remote start would be better, I wonder if thats why new cars are starting to show up with an "auto start feature".

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aaronISthrowed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I didnt know that they came out with that feature, ive seen some pretty bad damage done buy someone leaving the car in gear and then starting it. </TD></TR></TABLE> Remote starts for standards have been around in one form or another for some time now, normally just a remote start for an auto, with a photo eye, magnets or switches added to insure car was not in gear.
Today's remote starts for standards uses a "ready mode", when you come to a stop you must perform a short routine, step on foot brake - set "E" brake - remove foot from brake - turn off ign., [car will keep running] - get out of car - close door, [once last door is closed] motor will stop running, and as long as the remote start does not "see" a door opened, [the remote start is connected to the cars door pins] it will remotely start, if a door is opened "ready mode" is cancelled.

The remote start "knows" the car is not in gear because you got out of it when it was still running. 94

 

Thats pretty smart

What if someone puts it into gear when the car is off? Will it still start?

 

good idea

 

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What if someone puts it into gear when the car is off? Will it still start?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You cannot put it in gear when you're out of your car.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Odessa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You cannot put it in gear when you're out of your car. </TD></TR></TABLE> Ditto that.
Once the unit has been put into "ready mode" and you get out of the car and close the door, [remote start turns off] if the door or hood is opened, [trunk/hatch, if wired] the ready mode is cancelled and you would have to put it into "ready mode" again. 94

 

No, remote start is evil. It's in the bible, plain as day.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> As mentioned it will do no damage to your car if installed properly, if anything it will be better for the car if you remotely start it every time, driving a "cold" car is not good for the motor.

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Ding ding! I tell customers this all the time, I dont know where this misinformation about remote starts came from.

 

remote starts are harmless. remote starts start with one of two settings:

TACH MODE: with tach mode set up, there is a wire reading tach signal. as soon as the crank spins, the starter is disengaged and the car will run for its pre-programmed time

SMART START: this uses voltage signal to know when the car has started. Smart start is the most common method of remote start installation, usually only unused on cars that have a harder time starting cold.


as far as a car being in gear and starting... with any remote start that is DESIGNED to work on a manual transmission, it's physically impossible. manual transmission starts monitor gear selecgtion ( namely neutral) and that the parking brake is engaged. these systems rely on a series of steps to make them functional

car in neutral
e-brake engaged
foot off brake/clutch
open door ( car will stay running)
shut car door

car is now in "reservation mode". if the door is opened ( someone may alter trans/ebrake), reservation mode is broken and must be re-completed prior to remote start.

compustar
schoche
omega ( select models)

these are a few of the more reputable manual transmission starts.

 

I did it the ghetto way by jumping (not cutting) the clutch switch. The car will start in gear, however, since I use a turbo timer, in order for me to leave my car in gear is to hold in the clutch pedal for 2 min until the car shuts off, so basically every time I get out of the car, it's in neutral for sure. Yes, it's dangerous, but I made a jumper plug so if I ever sell the car I'll just unplug the jumper and plug the harness back into the clutch pedal and bingo.. no more remote start unless the new owner purposely eliminates the clutch switch again.

 

Your remote start has a "status" out wire, [ground when running] just connect it to the "Clutch Interlocks" output wire. 94


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostedB16EJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">manual transmission starts monitor gear selecgtion</TD></TR></TABLE> I know of no remote start that monitors gear selection, definitely not Compustar or Scosche, [made by Compustar] only know it must be out of gear if you got out of car with it running. 94