radar detector
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radar detector
what do you guys htink of this detector
http://www.radar-detectors-onl...5.htm
i dont think its got a jammer. so basicly i have read it needs a jammer cos if it doesnt it will work only if i have been locked on already?(so its too late)
thanks
http://www.radar-detectors-onl...5.htm
i dont think its got a jammer. so basicly i have read it needs a jammer cos if it doesnt it will work only if i have been locked on already?(so its too late)
thanks
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I would avoid it.
The cheapest decent detector that you will find is the Bel 980 or Bel 985 ($225 shipped (to the US) from http://www.abesofmaine.com/vie...el985 ). I still think that the Escort 8500 for $300 is good, but the V1 is a better buy for $400 due to it's residual value on ebay, and it's directional arrows.
The cheapest decent detector that you will find is the Bel 980 or Bel 985 ($225 shipped (to the US) from http://www.abesofmaine.com/vie...el985 ). I still think that the Escort 8500 for $300 is good, but the V1 is a better buy for $400 due to it's residual value on ebay, and it's directional arrows.
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save your money and go witht he passport 8500 or equally good is the bel 980...great for ILLEGAL street racing, it picks the cops up id say about 3/4's of a mile away before you blow by them doin 120+...annd believe me those jammers bs the sell the phaser and phantom is total crap!!! bel or the passport is the way to go, and with the bel u can buy their pricey laser jammer system and for sure it works....heheh nice little story behind that one but...believe me it works ;-)
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Re: radar detector (R3dL1n3)
Forget anything you read on Radartest.com. It's run by a paid consultant for Escort. This guy even got kicked out of Car & Driver a few years ago. Only put your faith in real tests where the manufacturers are all present (like http://www.speedzones.com) or tests done by brand (Honda Tuner, Corvette Fever) specific magazines. These guys are into techology, not ad or payoff dollars.
If anyone is interested, I've got the most recent test from speedzones that I can email in pdf format...
G
(400+ HP makes me shaken, not stirred)
If anyone is interested, I've got the most recent test from speedzones that I can email in pdf format...
G
(400+ HP makes me shaken, not stirred)
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From: Springfield, IL, USA
or just go to speedzones.com and download the radar test, along with the false alert testing.
Also go to http://www.caranddriver.com and do a search for radar detector test, you'll pull up their February 2002 test.
Elkhorn, eh? My sister and her family live in Elkhorn. They lived on 3rd Street for a while, then moved south of town (south of the Interstate), just east of the industrial park.
Also go to http://www.caranddriver.com and do a search for radar detector test, you'll pull up their February 2002 test.
Elkhorn, eh? My sister and her family live in Elkhorn. They lived on 3rd Street for a while, then moved south of town (south of the Interstate), just east of the industrial park.
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Re: (Heat)
Only problem with Car and Driver article was they only reviewed products made by companies that advertise in their magazine! And if memory serves correct, the C&D "test" wasn't performed by any recognized testing authority.
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400+ HP makes me shaken, not stirred.
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I believe in K40 and their ticket-free guarantee. Here's a test my dealer gave me. Escort and Bel are in bed together so that's why I chose an independent like K40. Dealer swears by them as do many porsche, BMW, etc. owners I know.
R E P O R T O F F I E L D E V A L U A T I O N
Products Evaluated: K40 RD850 Dash Mounted Radar Detector, K40-2000 Remote Radar Detector
Evaluation Date: 17 April 2003
Evaluation Location: Fort Worth, TX
Report Date: 18 April 2003
Report Number: SML0403-06
Speed Measurement Laboratories Inc. (SML) was asked by K40 Electronics of Elgin, IL to field evaluate its products. As is the standard procedure for SML in all field evaluations, all radar and laser guns were operated by a licensed and certified police officer. This procedure eliminates any doubt as to the authenticity or the results. Traffic officer Matt McClellen of the Fort Worth Police Department operated the various radar and laser guns and radar detector/detectors. Officer McClellen has over ten years experience in traffic enforcement. SML instructed Officer McClellen to operate the radar and laser guns as he does each day in issuing speeding citations.
Location/Methodology: The field evaluation was conducted on a lightly traveled access road of Interstate 820 in west Fort Worth beginning at 9:00 a.m. Orange cones were placed 1/2 mile, 1/4 mile, and 1/8 mile from the radar and laser gun’s position. SML personnel accompanied three K40 personnel in their test vehicle to substantiate the reported performance of K40’s detectors. The test vehicle containing the radar detectors was in commercial radio communication with SML transmission vehicle containing the radar and laser guns. The placement of the distance cones enabled comparison of K40’s products to Passport 8500 and Bel 985 detectors in the following categories: constant radar gun transmission and “instant on” transmissions of Ka band at 33.8 GHz, 34.7 GHz, 35.5 GHz, K band at 24.150 GHz, X band at 10.525 GHz, and laser guns at 904 nanometers. Radar detectors were also exposed to two radar detector/detectors, i.e. the VG-2 and Spectre. The VG-2 is looking for local oscillator radar detector radiation at 11.4-11.7 GHz and the Spectre is looking for detector radiation between 13.2-13.6 GHz. The most current radar and laser guns were used including: Stalker DSR Ka 34.7 GHz, Kustom Signals K band 24.150 GHz Falcon, MPH Z-25 K band with POP, MPH Bee III Ka band at 33.8 GHz with POP, Stalker K band Basic, MPH K-15 X and at 10.525 GHz, Laser Atlanta SpeedLaser 904 nanometer laser gun with pulse rate of 238 pps (pulses per second), Kustom Signals Pro Laser III 904 nanometer at 200 pps, and Stalker LZ-1 laser gun 904 nanometer at 130 pps.
Summary of Results: In our maximum range test, with a beginning distance of two miles from the gun’s
location, the K40-2000 Dual Undetectable Remote and portable RD850 detector correctly reported and alerted the driver to the use of radar over seven times the normal targeting distance of all radar guns on all bands. Both K40 detectors were also the only models we tested that were able to correctly detect and report the presence of the new MPH Z-25 K-band POP mode radar gun. None of the detectors evaluated in our test were able to alert to the MPH Bee III Ka-band 33.8 GHz POP mode radar gun. The K40 RD850 was not detected by the VG-2 and it correctly responded to the presence of the VG-2 with an audible and visual alert. All detectors were detected by the Spectre radar detector detector.
In our laser gun tests, the K40 Laser DefuserPlus equipped K40-2000 remote system successfully jammed the Stalker LZ-1 laser gun 100% of the time while the test vehicle was moving at 30 mph from the normal targeting distance of 1/8th mile (660 feet). It was also the only detector system in our test that was able to detect laser gun use at 1/8th of a mile.
Conclusion: In our test of the industry’s top rated radar detectors, no other detector outperformed K40’s new portable RD850 or Undetectable Remote System for maximum range reception on all bands from 2 mile. Both K40 detectors provided outstanding performance to all radar guns under all conditions.
This evaluation was conducted in accordance with accepted police practices of operation of radar and laser speed measurement devices as outlines by the International Association of Chiefs and NHTSA. Police officers operating radar and laser guns were currently certified, active duty officers.
R E P O R T O F F I E L D E V A L U A T I O N
Products Evaluated: K40 RD850 Dash Mounted Radar Detector, K40-2000 Remote Radar Detector
Evaluation Date: 17 April 2003
Evaluation Location: Fort Worth, TX
Report Date: 18 April 2003
Report Number: SML0403-06
Speed Measurement Laboratories Inc. (SML) was asked by K40 Electronics of Elgin, IL to field evaluate its products. As is the standard procedure for SML in all field evaluations, all radar and laser guns were operated by a licensed and certified police officer. This procedure eliminates any doubt as to the authenticity or the results. Traffic officer Matt McClellen of the Fort Worth Police Department operated the various radar and laser guns and radar detector/detectors. Officer McClellen has over ten years experience in traffic enforcement. SML instructed Officer McClellen to operate the radar and laser guns as he does each day in issuing speeding citations.
Location/Methodology: The field evaluation was conducted on a lightly traveled access road of Interstate 820 in west Fort Worth beginning at 9:00 a.m. Orange cones were placed 1/2 mile, 1/4 mile, and 1/8 mile from the radar and laser gun’s position. SML personnel accompanied three K40 personnel in their test vehicle to substantiate the reported performance of K40’s detectors. The test vehicle containing the radar detectors was in commercial radio communication with SML transmission vehicle containing the radar and laser guns. The placement of the distance cones enabled comparison of K40’s products to Passport 8500 and Bel 985 detectors in the following categories: constant radar gun transmission and “instant on” transmissions of Ka band at 33.8 GHz, 34.7 GHz, 35.5 GHz, K band at 24.150 GHz, X band at 10.525 GHz, and laser guns at 904 nanometers. Radar detectors were also exposed to two radar detector/detectors, i.e. the VG-2 and Spectre. The VG-2 is looking for local oscillator radar detector radiation at 11.4-11.7 GHz and the Spectre is looking for detector radiation between 13.2-13.6 GHz. The most current radar and laser guns were used including: Stalker DSR Ka 34.7 GHz, Kustom Signals K band 24.150 GHz Falcon, MPH Z-25 K band with POP, MPH Bee III Ka band at 33.8 GHz with POP, Stalker K band Basic, MPH K-15 X and at 10.525 GHz, Laser Atlanta SpeedLaser 904 nanometer laser gun with pulse rate of 238 pps (pulses per second), Kustom Signals Pro Laser III 904 nanometer at 200 pps, and Stalker LZ-1 laser gun 904 nanometer at 130 pps.
Summary of Results: In our maximum range test, with a beginning distance of two miles from the gun’s
location, the K40-2000 Dual Undetectable Remote and portable RD850 detector correctly reported and alerted the driver to the use of radar over seven times the normal targeting distance of all radar guns on all bands. Both K40 detectors were also the only models we tested that were able to correctly detect and report the presence of the new MPH Z-25 K-band POP mode radar gun. None of the detectors evaluated in our test were able to alert to the MPH Bee III Ka-band 33.8 GHz POP mode radar gun. The K40 RD850 was not detected by the VG-2 and it correctly responded to the presence of the VG-2 with an audible and visual alert. All detectors were detected by the Spectre radar detector detector.
In our laser gun tests, the K40 Laser DefuserPlus equipped K40-2000 remote system successfully jammed the Stalker LZ-1 laser gun 100% of the time while the test vehicle was moving at 30 mph from the normal targeting distance of 1/8th mile (660 feet). It was also the only detector system in our test that was able to detect laser gun use at 1/8th of a mile.
Conclusion: In our test of the industry’s top rated radar detectors, no other detector outperformed K40’s new portable RD850 or Undetectable Remote System for maximum range reception on all bands from 2 mile. Both K40 detectors provided outstanding performance to all radar guns under all conditions.
This evaluation was conducted in accordance with accepted police practices of operation of radar and laser speed measurement devices as outlines by the International Association of Chiefs and NHTSA. Police officers operating radar and laser guns were currently certified, active duty officers.
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