i just recently installed my proximity alarm. i tapped the wires into my shock sensor, it's been working fine the past week...but today was the first time it rained ever since i got the sensor, and now it keeps on beeping(not going off)...how can i fix this?? i don't see how adjusting it would help, because it would just move the bubbles around, but the sensitivity will still be the same


Modified by itsJDMyo at 5:55 AM 8/5/2004

 

You have two options: Readjust the sensitivity of the proximity sensor (lower it) or bypass the sensor from remote (is your alarm have that option) when it rains.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itsJDMyo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just recently installed my proximity alarm. i tapped the wires into my shock sensor, it's been working fine the past week...but today was the first time it rained ever since i got the sensor, and now it keeps on beeping...how can i fix this?? i don't see how adjusting it would help, because it would just move the bubbles around, but the sensitivity will still be the same</TD></TR></TABLE>

i bet you have your prox. mounted in the dash area or center console. i try to mount em in the headliner if possible. creates a bigger field and helps cut down on the false alarms.

other then moving it, re-adjust it.

 

you can't re-adjust the sensitivity of the proximity sensor, you can only adjust how big you want the bubbles...i don't really want to do that, because then i'd have to adjust both bubbles to be INSIDE the car, instead of 1 outside and 1 inside the car...i guess i'll try lower the sensitivity of the shock sensor, and see if that helps

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itsJDMyo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can't re-adjust the sensitivity of the proximity sensor, you can only adjust how big you want the bubbles...i don't really want to do that, because then i'd have to adjust both bubbles to be INSIDE the car, instead of 1 outside and 1 inside the car...i guess i'll try lower the sensitivity of the shock sensor, and see if that helps</TD></TR></TABLE> When you wired it to the shock sensor, did you use diodes to isolate the the triggers,[blues] from each other 94

 

you really want both bubbles in the car. That's really how the system is setup to be used. If you adjust the outer field to reach beyond the body of the car, then in some spots it will reach how you want, but others it will either reach too far or not far enough. My guess is you have it set how you want to reach outside the doors, which have more material to them than the roof & windsheild. The movement of the rain & roof might just be enough to set off the outer zone. This would only cause the warn away to go off though.

If the actual alarm is going off full trigger, then something else must be wrong.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> When you wired it to the shock sensor, did you use diodes to isolate the the triggers,[blues] from each other 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

no are these it?? if so, how would i use it?

http://www.radioshack.com/prod...-1653

 

actually for DEI's, the correct way is to splice the wires together. Take the plug for the shock sensor, and on the end the shock sensor its self plugs into cut the blue wire about 2 or 3 inches from the plug. Then take the little section of blue wire and hook it into your green wire in the shock sensor plug. Now take the harness for the prox sensor. Splice the red and black into the matching colors in the shock sensor harness. Now for the blue and green on the prox sensor plug, connect those two together. Now connect those two to the blue wire that use to go to the shock sensor.

What this does is allows the shock sensor's Trigger and Full Alarm modes to function on the same "channel". It also allows the same for the prox sensor. This way if the alarm comes up with Code 4 for example when you disarm your car, you'll know the prox sensor is what set it off. This also keeps the two sensors isolated.

 

^^^^my shock sensor only has the wires orange, blue, red, and black...no green wire on the shock sensor

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itsJDMyo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

no are these it?? if so, how would i use it?

http://www.radioshack.com/prod...-1653</TD></TR></TABLE> Yes they are diodes, you only need small ones,[ low current] what alarm do you have? is the shock sensor a dual stage or single stage? [warning on soft impact and full alarm on hard impact]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rjr162 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually for DEI's, the correct way is to splice the wires together. Take the plug for the shock sensor, and on the end the shock sensor its self plugs into cut the blue wire about 2 or 3 inches from the plug. Then take the little section of blue wire and hook it into your green wire in the shock sensor plug. Now take the harness for the prox sensor. Splice the red and black into the matching colors in the shock sensor harness. Now for the blue and green on the prox sensor plug, connect those two together. Now connect those two to the blue wire that use to go to the shock sensor.

What this does is allows the shock sensor's Trigger and Full Alarm modes to function on the same "channel". It also allows the same for the prox sensor. This way if the alarm comes up with Code 4 for example when you disarm your car, you'll know the prox sensor is what set it off. This also keeps the two sensors isolated.</TD></TR></TABLE> What? I have been installing Dei for as long as its been around and I have never seen anything telling me that this is the way to wire a prox. wireing the green and blue of prox. together would make both inside and outside zones trigger the same input.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rjr162 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you really want both bubbles in the car. That's really how the system is setup to be used. If you adjust the outer field to reach beyond the body of the car, then in some spots it will reach how you want, but others it will either reach too far or not far enough. My guess is you have it set how you want to reach outside the doors, which have more material to them than the roof & windsheild. The movement of the rain & roof might just be enough to set off the outer zone. This would only cause the warn away to go off though.

If the actual alarm is going off full trigger, then something else must be wrong.</TD></TR></TABLE> The point of a dual stage prox. is so the outside zone gives ,[ set for just outside the car] warning, and only warning, and the inside zone,[set for inside of car] will trip alarm to full alarming, setting both zones inside of car will only cause problems and give no warning. If the alarm itself is only single stage there is no way to get warnaway through the alarm itself, and anytime two sensers are using the same trigger they must be isolated from each other with diodes. take my word for it I have been installing car alarms for as long as there have been car alarms. 94

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What? I have been installing Dei for as long as its been around and I have never seen anything telling me that this is the way to wire a prox. wireing the green and blue of prox. together would make both inside and outside zones trigger the same input.
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Actually you're wrong. The blue wire does the warn away, while the green does the full trigger (or it might be vice-versa I forget now). One pulses a quick ground, while the other does a longer ground for full trigger. The blue and green wire into the brain only pick which zone is triggered. The ones from the brain do not determine if it's a full trigger or warn away. (IE&gt; For a good example of this open up a DEI Glass Break sensor... the harness that comes with it is already split to run the shock sensor AND the glass brake, so you don't have to do any wiring... and the wires are tagged just as I explained)

I've also installed DEI for as long as I've been installing (until recently when the stupid company I work for switched over to Code Alarm).

As for your alarm having red, black, blue, and orange.. my guess is the orange would be the equivilent of the green on the DEI. An easy way to find out is to test it with a multi-meter. Somehow touch it to the orange wire (strip it or get it to stay against the exposed back end of the wire pin in the plug) and set the alarm off. See if it either pulses a quick ground or holds a longer ground. This way you'll know if it does function as one of those.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rjr162 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Actually you're wrong. The blue wire does the warn away, while the green does the full trigger (or it might be vice-versa I forget now). One pulses a quick ground, while the other does a longer ground for full trigger. The blue and green wire into the brain only pick which zone is triggered. The ones from the brain do not determine if it's a full trigger or warn away. (IE&gt; For a good example of this open up a DEI Glass Break sensor... the harness that comes with it is already split to run the shock sensor AND the glass brake, so you don't have to do any wiring... and the wires are tagged just as I explained)

I've also installed DEI for as long as I've been installing (until recently when the stupid company I work for switched over to Code Alarm).

As for your alarm having red, black, blue, and orange.. my guess is the orange would be the equivilent of the green on the DEI. An easy way to find out is to test it with a multi-meter. Somehow touch it to the orange wire (strip it or get it to stay against the exposed back end of the wire pin in the plug) and set the alarm off. See if it either pulses a quick ground or holds a longer ground. This way you'll know if it does function as one of those.</TD></TR></TABLE> Only if you have multiplex input. 94

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Only if you have multiplex input. 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

True, which I did assume (which is bad).. Considering I don't know what his alarm is. That's why I would MUCH rather be looking at it then sitting on the otherside of the net

 

i have a clifford arrow 5

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itsJDMyo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just recently installed my proximity alarm. i tapped the wires into my shock sensor, it's been working fine the past week...but today was the first time it rained ever since i got the sensor, and now it keeps on beeping(not going off)...how can i fix this?? i don't see how adjusting it would help, because it would just move the bubbles around, but the sensitivity will still be the same


Modified by itsJDMyo at 5:55 AM 8/5/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>

Correction: You said you tapped the wires of your proximity sensor into the shock sensor? Ok, you can do it as long as you isolate each from the other. How, use 1/4w diodes in a negative direction on the warn away and trigger wires of each sensor.

You said it keeps on beeping (or warning away) when it rains. It could be your shock sensor being too sensitive instead of the proximity sensor. Just lower the shock sensor a tad and try it.

Just to reasure, try also to relocate the proximity sensor to a more convenient location and readjust again.

If you can try by adjusting each sensor individually, it would be great. But then, it would be a pain in the **** to wait for it to rain just to do this test.

Good luck!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eric’s R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Correction: You said you tapped the wires of your proximity sensor into the shock sensor? Ok, you can do it as long as you isolate each from the other. How, use 1/4w diodes in a negative direction on the warn away and trigger wires of each sensor.

You said it keeps on beeping (or warning away) when it rains. It could be your shock sensor being too sensitive instead of the proximity sensor. Just lower the shock sensor a tad and try it.

Just to reasure, try also to relocate the proximity sensor to a more convenient location and readjust again.

If you can try by adjusting each sensor individually, it would be great. But then, it would be a pain in the **** to wait for it to rain just to do this test.

Good luck!</TD></TR></TABLE> You can always pull out the old garden hose. 94