DIY: Poor mans GPS tracking for stolen vehicle recovery.
06-25-2008, 02:29 AM
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Re: DIY: Poor mans GPS tracking for stolen vehicle recovery. (tazeat)
try:
http://www.geocities.com/prestonsystems/mytracking
Very stable i425 java application (no reboots) and great mapping. Personal use accounts are free.
http://www.geocities.com/prestonsystems/mytracking
Very stable i425 java application (no reboots) and great mapping. Personal use accounts are free.
09-06-2008, 01:17 PM
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mologogo.com works for me, sorry ive been hella busy with life right now, and have not even touched these for a while, I was selling on ebay, not I have like a stack of 50 some phones maybe more I picked up for cheap just sitting here xD I still have to sell.
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http://www.instamapper.com looks very promising, I will try them later. I tried to write my own software.... And failed.
09-11-2008, 02:06 AM
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Re: DIY: Poor mans GPS tracking for stolen vehicle recovery. (tazeat)
FYI I did this way before you on honda-tech so stop copying my idea and taking credit 
oh and fyi the system is flawed up the *** it crashes all the time and you can not have it in the dash because the GPS signal is [freak]ed big time.
Its the truth and I though of it .
Peace
oh and fyi the system is flawed up the *** it crashes all the time and you can not have it in the dash because the GPS signal is [freak]ed big time.
Its the truth and I though of it .
Peace
09-11-2008, 03:38 PM
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Re: DIY: Poor mans GPS tracking for stolen vehicle recovery. (le0ftw)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by le0ftw »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">FYI I did this way before you on honda-tech so stop copying my idea and taking credit
oh and fyi the system is flawed up the *** it crashes all the time and you can not have it in the dash because the GPS signal is [freak]ed big time.
Its the truth and I though of it .
Peace</TD></TR></TABLE>
And I been doubting this unit since I first heard of it. I testing a member car soon and will post real facts about his setup.
oh and fyi the system is flawed up the *** it crashes all the time and you can not have it in the dash because the GPS signal is [freak]ed big time.
Its the truth and I though of it .
Peace</TD></TR></TABLE>
And I been doubting this unit since I first heard of it. I testing a member car soon and will post real facts about his setup.
09-13-2008, 11:42 PM
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Well I agree, mologogo = garbage, I know this, accutracking seems to work pretty well though. GPS is not bad, it's not great either, takes too long to establish a link and its <100ft or so accuracy typical.
But it does work if set up correctly.
But it does work if set up correctly.
09-14-2008, 01:55 AM
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Re: (tazeat)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tazeat »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well I agree, mologogo = garbage, I know this, accutracking seems to work pretty well though. GPS is not bad, it's not great either, takes too long to establish a link and its <100ft or so accuracy typical.
But it does work if set up correctly.</TD></TR></TABLE>
something does not seem right here
But it does work if set up correctly.</TD></TR></TABLE>
something does not seem right here
09-14-2008, 04:11 AM
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What does not seem right?
Mologogo = crashes
Accutracking software = good
On a cold start gps takes like 45 seconds to a minute or even more sometimes to get an initial lock which is slow, but once started it updates in ~5 seconds.
Accuracy after experimenting I have found 80% of the time is within about 20 ft, but in some conditions you get random results which are up to ~100 ft away from the actual location...
When I wrote the initial guide, I did not know about these things, but this is after experience, stay away mologogo and you will be ok.
Get a damn blackberry and data plan and use it if you need the <3ft and <1 second updates, but then your not talking about a minimal reboost every 3 months...
This costs almost nothing and if set up right, it could fairly easily lead to you recovering your car if its been taken as long as you can determine where its been taken before its stripped...
If you have the money buy a GPS alarm, yes its better tracking, I never once said it wasn't, will it do much more to prevent your car from being raped after being stolen/towed/whatever? You decide. It depends on a case by case basis...
Mologogo = crashes
Accutracking software = good
On a cold start gps takes like 45 seconds to a minute or even more sometimes to get an initial lock which is slow, but once started it updates in ~5 seconds.
Accuracy after experimenting I have found 80% of the time is within about 20 ft, but in some conditions you get random results which are up to ~100 ft away from the actual location...
When I wrote the initial guide, I did not know about these things, but this is after experience, stay away mologogo and you will be ok.
Get a damn blackberry and data plan and use it if you need the <3ft and <1 second updates, but then your not talking about a minimal reboost every 3 months...
This costs almost nothing and if set up right, it could fairly easily lead to you recovering your car if its been taken as long as you can determine where its been taken before its stripped...
If you have the money buy a GPS alarm, yes its better tracking, I never once said it wasn't, will it do much more to prevent your car from being raped after being stolen/towed/whatever? You decide. It depends on a case by case basis...
10-10-2008, 03:40 AM
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This is what I mean by stray results
I just did this a few minutes ago, this is with the phone in my hand. I am actually toward the top where 90% of those dots are, but I have a "random" dot about 50 ft south of my location...
A more expensive gps unit would not do this, but it really doesn't take away from the fact I still know where the phone is....
BTW InstaMapper is GREAT software.
Modified by tazeat at 1:31 AM 10/18/2008
I just did this a few minutes ago, this is with the phone in my hand. I am actually toward the top where 90% of those dots are, but I have a "random" dot about 50 ft south of my location...
A more expensive gps unit would not do this, but it really doesn't take away from the fact I still know where the phone is....
BTW InstaMapper is GREAT software.
Modified by tazeat at 1:31 AM 10/18/2008
10-17-2008, 08:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tazeat »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On a cold start gps takes like 45 seconds to a minute or even more sometimes to get an initial lock which is slow, but once started it updates in ~5 seconds.
Accuracy after experimenting I have found 80% of the time is within about 20 ft, but in some conditions you get random results which are up to ~100 ft away from the actual location...</TD></TR></TABLE>
If the phone remains on, you should virtually NEVER have to do a cold start. Even if you report only once an hour, you should be only doing a warm start, which usually isn't as bad. in the 10 - 15 second range.
I've worked with high end GPSs and until you get into the survey grade units, they all will have outlier points from time to time. The better ones have less of them, but I'd guess your problem is just as much to do with the antenna and it's placement, as the actual GPS engine. I could get all geeky and tell you what parameters to start adjusting to get them out, but I'll bet a million dollars that they aren't an option on the phone. Basically they result from a trade off of time to fix vs accuracy. Most people want to know about where they are, right now, not, exactly where they are, in a couple minutes.
You're right, it's good enough. You want to be able to put your car in a parking lot, but you don't need to know the exact numbered space.
Accuracy after experimenting I have found 80% of the time is within about 20 ft, but in some conditions you get random results which are up to ~100 ft away from the actual location...</TD></TR></TABLE>
If the phone remains on, you should virtually NEVER have to do a cold start. Even if you report only once an hour, you should be only doing a warm start, which usually isn't as bad. in the 10 - 15 second range.
I've worked with high end GPSs and until you get into the survey grade units, they all will have outlier points from time to time. The better ones have less of them, but I'd guess your problem is just as much to do with the antenna and it's placement, as the actual GPS engine. I could get all geeky and tell you what parameters to start adjusting to get them out, but I'll bet a million dollars that they aren't an option on the phone. Basically they result from a trade off of time to fix vs accuracy. Most people want to know about where they are, right now, not, exactly where they are, in a couple minutes.
You're right, it's good enough. You want to be able to put your car in a parking lot, but you don't need to know the exact numbered space.
10-24-2008, 08:05 AM
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One of the features of a separate system like Accutracking is that it is not connected to the alarm unlike a DEI GPS system. So if a thief somehow defeats the alarm, the Accutracking still works. Also, Accutracking has a 'fence' system that will alert you if your car leaves an area of your choosing. But of course, the downsides may be range, frequency of updates, and accuracy.
10-25-2008, 05:19 AM
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My question to this is... What if you didn't hardwire it to your alarm. And all the thief did was disabled the alarm and towed your car and disconnected the battery. And you needed your car to start up the phone.
10-25-2008, 10:19 AM
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Re: (b20_driven)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b20_driven »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My question to this is... What if you didn't hardwire it to your alarm. And all the thief did was disabled the alarm and towed your car and disconnected the battery. And you needed your car to start up the phone.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I left the phone in my car on its own battery and it lasted 2 days. Hopefully if your car was stolen you would notice it before 2 days went by.
I left the phone in my car on its own battery and it lasted 2 days. Hopefully if your car was stolen you would notice it before 2 days went by.
10-25-2008, 01:19 PM
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First if you have gps installed. you should not have the alarm in a location that they could get to. And if you installed the alarm correctly from the start they would not be able to start the car and they would have no choice but to tow the car or pull it away. Do you think a theif can get to this in 30 min while the alarm is going off and the car calling you and they can't shut the car up.
10-30-2008, 12:42 PM
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This is really cool.
I work for a company that makes Non-Nuclear Asphalt Density Gauges and on the newest version
we incorporated a GPS unit. I was talking to one of the engineers
about installing one in my car but this seems a lot easier.
for grassroots innovation
I work for a company that makes Non-Nuclear Asphalt Density Gauges and on the newest version
we incorporated a GPS unit. I was talking to one of the engineers
about installing one in my car but this seems a lot easier.
for grassroots innovation