Can you help me out? I have sent you 5 H-T IM's and an email in the past week, I guess its not working...

Here is what i asked you:
(4:00 PM 9/20/2002) integra-modder: hey man, do you know how I can hook up a back up battery to my alarm, how to do the actual wiring? i have a set of batteries in my basement from previous projects, they both work, so i want to use one for the alarm, but i need to know if I need a relay or anything of that nature...

(4:11 PM 9/20/2002) integra-modder: also, the one battery is 12 V @ 7.0 AH and the second is 12 V @ 6.5 AH

(4:41 PM 9/20/2002) integra-modder: also, i see that you have a good GPS tracking system, can you give me some more info on thins?

(11:22 PM 9/23/2002) integra-modder: teken, can you help me out?

(10:19 PM 9/25/2002) integra-modder: My alarm starts blaring as soon as i arm it. Then it gives me 7 flashes telling me the error was: "An attempt was made to turn on the ignition or start the engine while the system was armed"
Can anyone help me out with this?

 

You have a lot of questions are you sure you should be installing this alarm?

You will need diodes to isolate it from the rest of the electrical system.

Use the one with the highest amp hours, or better yet run them both in parallel.

Do you have the ignition sense wire hooked up correctly? I would try to find someone that has experience hooking up this alarm. It's always great to learn, but I wouldn't recommend learning on an avantgaurd.

 

Its already installed. the only thing ive have hooked up are the sensors since I tried to arm it and it goes off. I just need to find out if its deffinetly a wiring thing or if there is something in the setup that is set wrong. the other night after hooking it up, it didnt do this.

 

ttt

 

Answer the above question.

 

yes, its hooked up correctly.

not too many people in my area have these alarms, ****, not too many people on this board have this alarm...

 

Swing over to the carsound.com forums. They regularally have DEI techs on there answering questions and it is the alarm of choice over there.
And to answer your question in the other thread, hook the gray wire up to your factory door trigger wire (light green/red)and ground the brown/red off the Clifford.

 

Let me try to explain why possibly people are reluctant to answer your questions. You ask a lot of question, you have IM numerous times. You are trying to do to much at once. Concentrate on getting the basic alarm running first. Clifford usually has a recommended process for the install follow it; they have a reason for it. I know everyone think alarms are easy but they are not. A basic alarm can be easy. A more advanced alarm can be very difficult. Clifford never used to give out the installation instructions. The reason they did this is because they didn’t want untrained installers installing their alarms. Why? Just because an alarm works doesn’t mean it is working 100% properly. Part of installing an alarm is being able to diagnose and fix the bugs. Clifford didn’t want people thinking their alarms were junk because of faulty installations.



Now that I said all of this and I know you’re determined to install your own alarm. Let me tell you it is very difficult to diagnose problems like yours over the internet. It could be numerous things. So back up and slow down. You don’t need to install all the sensors and backup batteries and all the other features. Get each section done first before you move to the next. It’s easier to diagnose problems this way.

Goodluck
keep us posted
nsxxtreme

 

kwhitelaw, thanks for the hint, i kinda forgot about that place...

nsxxtreme, thanks man, Im trying to get the information about the batteries so if I need to install something in wiring i would in advans so as not to screw up the whole install later just to put in the back up battery. As of now, the alarm isnt hooked up to any sensors. I hooked up most wires such as power, remote start, remote lights, door lock/unlock, door & trunk triggers. All my sensors are still in boxes.

While I was sitting in class today, I remembered that the integra has connectors for the 5 ifnition wires. Since the fualt that its giving me is saying that there has been an attempt to start car/turn on the ignition, then unplugging the key switch should fix this.
After disconnecting the 2 brow connectors, it still threw the same code. I then pluged them back in and started the car to make sure it still starts. Then I disconnected the 9 pin connector (big guage wire) from the intelistart unit. Tried to arm it and the same thing occured, then i disconnected the 14 smaller guage connector from the intelistart unit, tried to arm it, and the same 7 flashes appeared. I disconnected the smaller 12 pin connector off of the AG4 unit and ended up with the same result. Then I connected everything back to gether and started the car to make sure it works.


The thing is, on tuesday night, after I made the power connections to the car, (power and ignition mainly) , I was able to turn the lights on and arm it and turn it off without this occurance, But wednesday when I came back to work on it, after hooking up the relay for the remote clutch interlock switch, I tried to arm it and it went off on me.

Im just trying to find the reason for what could possibly be causing this.

Thanks for your help guys, now only if teken replied, does anyone know how to get his attention to this thread?

 

ttt

 

After sitting in the car for a long *** time...i finally figure out whats been causing the 7 flash error.

I pulled out the 4 main pins from the 12 pin AG4 harness that goto the ignition:
White/Green Key side starter
Green/Blue Coil side - ignition
White/Blue Starter side - starter
White/Brown Key side ignition

I then put in each one and armed the system. On the last one, the White/Brown wire from the key side of the ignition that goes to the Black/Yellow wire from the the ignition key makes the system fault.

I ran the system through all tests with this wire unplugged and everything worked, except for the car itself since the wire is disconnected.

Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this wire to fault system?

I can see that this wire only goes to the black yellow wire so its not improperly connected.

 

well said.... Most pro's have trouble/take a lot of time with those.




[Modified by miahmouse, 2:42 AM 9/29/2002]

 

Take a DMM and measure the voltage on the white/brown wire. It should be 0 volts unless the key is turned on. You will need to plug the positive of the DMM into the white/brown wire the ground of the DMM to ground.

 

Ok, got a DMM and put one end in the 12 pin connector of the AG4 unit for the White/Brown wire and the other end to the frame of the car. I ended up getting 0 volts at non armed status, as soon as I press the arm button, the voltage jumps to 1.5 volts, alarm blaring, and lights flashing.

 

more advice would be appreciated.

 

I am assuming you cut the black/yellow wire correct? The brown/white wire connects to the side that goes to the key side. The Green/Blue goes to the ignition side. What else have you installed? You don't have anything spliced into any of these wires correct? The alarm works properly with the white/brown wire disconnected correct?

Tell me exactly what wires you have going where (colors).
Since you don't have that much hooked up it should be only 15-20 wires.

I also am assuming you are pulling power for the alarm and remote start directly from the battery.


[Modified by nsxxtreme, 6:16 AM 9/30/2002]

 

Your assumption is correct. The Black/Yellow wire is the ignition 1 wire for the car. The key side is soldered to the White/Brown side and the Ignition side is soldered to the Green/Blue wire.
What are you refering to when you say what else have I installed? As of this point, all necessary sensors, tilt, proximity, and omni are hooked up to the alarm. Everything is "installed", just the wires arent hidden and sensor not fully mounted (omni).
There is nothing else spliced into the Black/Yellow wire.
Correct, when the White/Brown wire is disconnected the alarm works properly. It arms, disarms, goes off on all sensors. The only thing that happens is that the car itself cant start since the disconnect White/Brown wire causes a gap in the circut.

 

With the white/ brown wire disconnected what is the voltage at the black/yellow wire with the alarm armed? What is the voltage at the white/brown wire when armed and disconnected? They should both be 0 volts.

What do you have connected to the
orange wire
Gray wire
gray/orange wire
orange/gray
blue/white (brake light +)
black/gray (RPM input)
Black/green (automatic transmission mode)





[Modified by nsxxtreme, 9:53 PM 10/1/2002]

 

Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it.

With the white/ brown wire disconnected, the voltage at the black/yellow wire with the alarm armed is zero. Also, If I disconnect the wire, arm it, and reconnect the wire while its armed, nothing happens since the wire has no current running through it.
The voltage at the white/brown (I hope you meant white/brown since there is no brown/white) wire when armed and disconnected is zero volts.


Orange Accessory WHT/BLK
Gray Not Used
Gray/Orange Not Used
Orange/Gray Ignition 2 YEL
Blue/White Brake light input/output GRN/WHT
Black/Gray RPM Input BLU
Black/Green Not Used

Here is a full list of wires hooked up for the alarm.

Can you explain what this thing is meant to be used for?

 

ttt

 

I believe the sensor you don't know what is is the temperature sensor. It is made for cold climates, starts your car if the outside temperature drops below freezing.

Yes I meant this.

Orange Accessory white/black is constant not acc
Fix this
Try the white/red

The Clifford intellistart Gray wire should actually go to the Yellow ignition wire.


You don't have to ttt I will find you





[Modified by nsxxtreme, 9:37 PM 10/1/2002]

 

Wow, thanks man....

What do you mean by the white/black wire is constant and not acc?
which white red wire should I connect it to?

Ok, Gray wire will be hooked up today after school, If you can, tell me the location of where the white red wire is located so that I can connect it and test it out.

Here is a diagram of the ignition key switch from the helms....
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/Integr...ey-Diagram.jpg

 

Damn my wiring guide for the integra only goes to 2000.

Frow what you have listed the orange wire should got to the wht/blk

yellow should go to orange/gray

white/brown green/blue should go to ignition 1

blk/wht should go to wht/green wht/blue

I would actually get under and test the wires to verify they are actually working the way desired. Wht/blk should be 12V in acc mode and 0V when the key is removed. If this doesn't work either you have something else really screwed up or the alarm is bad. I would make at least two more attemps to see if you made a wiring error. Check the entire alarm not just the intellistart circuit. So far everything you have wired looks correct.

It's doubtful this is the problem but you did program the rpms correct?

Then

This is very puzzleing you should read the same voltages regaurdless.

Just for kicks swap around the white/brown with the green/blue

You may also try http://www.the12volt.com
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[Modified by nsxxtreme, 8:55 AM 10/2/2002]

 

Not sure if Ive already posted a link to this, but this is the wiring guide that i made for my install, its just the clifford wire -> car wire type thing.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/poldim/Other/wiring.htm

 

Also, I hooked up the gray wire to a +12V when the car was on and the heater still did not turn on.
WTF is up with it?