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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 04:47 AM
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I have a dc console in my car and love it. its really nice to have a good set of cup holders and a functional arm wrest.
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 07:16 AM
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Heres a kick *** website i just found.
civic4g.com
I got alot of helpful info from there already that was easier to find if i was searching on H-T, cus im sure its here aswell, just somewhere burried lol.
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Red.Si
The interior Is actually in beautiful condition so I'd probably leave it the way it is for now. Eventually I'll put in some fresh carpet, seats and maybe wrap a few things. Maybe even try my hand at doin the ceiling but since it's in Pretty good shape I won't worry about it.

If anything the first thing that will happen as far as interior goes is center console and power windows. I have to figure out where I'll get both of those

And as far as lowering the car why wouldn't you want it lower? I mean even just an inch would look so much better and not affect daily driving.
The answer is: Lower a couple of them and keep them through lifecycle. 20-30 years from now you'll know why. Not being sarcastic of a smart *** here brother.

These little cars have limited travel in the suspension and not a lot of ground clearance to begin with. Reducing that even more by lowering just beats everything in the chasis even harder. I run mine at stock height and it's tightened up beyond stock with KYB struts.

It's a preference with it's inherent trade off's, and boils down to personal taste in the end. Just be aware of the compromises. Like I said, for autocross use I'd definitely lower it - for daily street driving - definitely not.

Building mine, I took what is probably a less conventional route. Engine and subesequent horsepower increase will be last. First was polyurethane bushings, performance struts, complete brake system rebuild to include aftermarket performance front rotors, stainless header and catback exhaust, Optima battery, radiator, front and rear shock tower bars, stereo, etc. This spring I'm going to replace the fuel pump just because and then build a motor for it.

For a daily driver it will cross speed bumps, driveways, potholes, railroad tracks, etc. If lowering is what you want, for the appearance, then by all means dump it.

You have a clean looking hatch there.

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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 08:55 AM
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please take off the scoop and slam it. otherwise looks clean as F**k
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by K7-1Ktrevor
I have a dc console in my car and love it. its really nice to have a good set of cup holders and a functional arm wrest.
Yes indeed. I don't have a cup holder in the hatch and there is Starbucks fallout everywhere, to include me wearing it from time to time.

One of these days.......
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Red.Si
It is actually.
I did it as a fiberglassing project in highschool.


@Homebuilt503

No lift kit.. thats stock suspension right thur.

I'd very much like to lower it and that'll probably be my next project. Get some nice coilovers.
This summer
I'm really hoping to get my hands on a b16 or b18, But we'll see how much time and money i have.

Any other recommendations?
Yea i know bro i was just giving ya grief. Get a nice set of coilovers and she will look alot better
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Dual-500
The answer is: Lower a couple of them and keep them through lifecycle. 20-30 years from now you'll know why. Not being sarcastic of a smart *** here brother.

These little cars have limited travel in the suspension and not a lot of ground clearance to begin with. Reducing that even more by lowering just beats everything in the chasis even harder. I run mine at stock height and it's tightened up beyond stock with KYB struts.

It's a preference with it's inherent trade off's, and boils down to personal taste in the end. Just be aware of the compromises. Like I said, for autocross use I'd definitely lower it - for daily street driving - definitely not.

Building mine, I took what is probably a less conventional route. Engine and subesequent horsepower increase will be last. First was polyurethane bushings, performance struts, complete brake system rebuild to include aftermarket performance front rotors, stainless header and catback exhaust, Optima battery, radiator, front and rear shock tower bars, stereo, etc. This spring I'm going to replace the fuel pump just because and then build a motor for it.

For a daily driver it will cross speed bumps, driveways, potholes, railroad tracks, etc. If lowering is what you want, for the appearance, then by all means dump it.

You have a clean looking hatch there.
I think you are absolutely right.
Now that i think about it.. I never thought of all the wear and tear over time.


And for the starbucks... I know what you mean man.. I know what you mean.
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 06:33 PM
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I think you are absolutely right.
Now that i think about it.. I never thought of all the wear and tear over time.

And for the starbucks... I know what you mean man.. I know what you mean.
Wear and tear is only a consideration - not an argument AGAINST lowering - only considerations.

Lowering is cool and fine and dandy. If you want it that way - do it to it. But, understand the big picture. Suspension geometry, damping, tire wear and so on. If you do opt to lower it, do it right and that ain't cheap.

For the rationale I shared, I didn't and won't dump this one. Been there done that I guarantee it. My racing karts are so low I can't drive them on the street - which is a good thing. But, man back in the day I used to love a midnight blast up and down the adjacent block or ditch bank with a 400cc tuned two stroke with open expansion chamber.........music......

Anything changed is a trade off somewhere else.

On the hood scoop. I don't consider vanity or fads, drifting movies or whatever crap. It's about bringing cold air into the engine compartment - for that and that alone it's a good thing. That's what it's about on the Subaru - it's not really stylish - it's function.

Whether you lower it or not - performance struts are absolutely recommended and strut tower bars as well as braking system enhancements.

And for us both some friggin cup holders!!!

ON my hatch, with stock ride height and air conditioning removed it's a little under damped in the front end - I"m talking struts here when compared to the rear. So, a future modification will be to relocate the battery to the back for the weight transfer. This is most noticeable when going over speed bumps - the front end will bottom out suspension before the rear will. Food for thought......
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 08:48 PM
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Thats cool so did you put it on an oem hood or did you get another cf one? And if you dont mind me asking how much did you pick the car up for?
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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 12:39 AM
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3,500 it was originally 5 from the dealership but I talked him down.
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