Natural Aspirations

R&D costs alot of money. Its easy to come along and copy another companys work and sell it. This company is probably making more proffit on these cams than their origonal designer.

JerseySiPOS

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someone else posted a UGR cam question a while ago, and no one was interested. either HT doesn't want to buy copies...yeah right!!! or it's because of the name...of course...or they need a dyno chart??!!?! What do you need dyno charts to pick a cam for when you've seen one cam make tons of power with one engine but poor power output with another engine.

as long as UGR's budget went into a quality constructed camshaft, that's what counts IMO. the original manufactures hopefully did their homework already.

Used2beAb16

I think they are coming from the same place, and are just selling them at a discounted rate.

oldskool teggy

dynos wont tell you how great the quality of rhte camshaft is. only how much power it makes

Used2beAb16

well they shoudl be here tomm (thurs) so we'll see how they look.

Mike K

i'm waiting for them to make a toda spec A copy, personally.
because i want one set for each of my motors, and i can't afford $800/pair from toda.

Used2beAb16

Got the jun III copies in today. Along with a set of the toda style gears. They all look real good. Def appear to be jun III's!

I am going to be installing them this weekend. (just so u know im ditching some GE gears for these toda copies)

Keep in mind this is all visual inspection, no hardness testing, or mic'ing etc. But I am confident right now they will do just fine.

derekhh

keep us posted

bs-inc

Definately gives us a review once you get things going. I'm also loving their "Toda" gears.

ugrusa

i have plenty of the toda gears in stock, give me a call and i'll set you up! with a good price just to get your foot in the door plus they look bad ***!

Used2beAb16

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I can say I couldnt have gotten better prices anywhere for the stuff i got.

Good place to do business with.

emir

anybody tried UGR valve spring n retainer?

broketuner-Sol_Si

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I can say I couldnt have gotten better prices anywhere for the stuff i got.

Good place to do business with. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Keep us posted, I look forward to the results.

Used2beAb16

well i was gonna throw them in today but I got hurt im gonna try early this week to get them in.

blu3g

any update?

Used2beAb16

ok cams and gears are in. The Toda style gears are much sturdier than the other gears i was using. They also seem to be of better fit and finish than my old adjustables. I not gonna say which they where but I will say that they were a prominent name and i have been very displeased with most features of these gears.

My only beef with the UGRs is they are a lil tougher for a rookie to figure out the markings but I have no probs. (same as the todas would be).

Cams are in valve lash has been set, the car was goign to be running today but i was missing a few of the round seals for the valve cover going to pick some up at honda village tommorrow, then it will be on the road.

If the cams are making the power they should it will be leaner on my wideband than the previous cams i was running, (crane stage II).

I will post tomm how everyting turns out once its running.

Used2beAb16

well.... ****.

Something is wrong, but I do not believe it is related to the cams or sprockets.

The motor is ticking loudly (valve i believe) It also smokes, I re-did the valve-lash and it seems to be all in spec. Smoking is less since i re-adjusted the valves but a lil smoke and a loud ticking none-the-less.

I dont know I could have bent a valve but it seems that I did I cant figure what else it woudl be. I'm gonna do a compression test and go from there. I dont know what else it could be.

SkRiBLaH

well that blows

UncleD

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RedZone &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I will vouch for UGR products. We have tested everything they have and so far have had no complaints and great success with them.

We are the Northern California Dealer if anyone needs anything let me know.

We honer UGR sale prices as well!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Used2beAb16

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yeah I am Effing pissed right now!! I cannot figure out why this happened, I dont think any foreign objects coulda got in there and I dont have another explanation right now.

On a side note the car actually idles smoother and the exhaust note sounds healthier than with the Crane II's I had in there. (which is why i went with these ones, smaller primaries.) That is, despite the valve tapping like hell (or so it seems.)

Used2beAb16

Throttle tip-in is back to stock aswell (bogged with the old cams) I have no doubt these cams are fine and will make great power once i get this sorted out i just dont have the patience!

RedZone

a little valve noise will be normal with these cams...are you sure its not just that?

Used2beAb16

No i don't believe it is.

Correct me if im wrong but a lil valve noise would not over power my radio at a normal volume with my windows up

Checked and RECHECKED the lash too.

UncleD

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I wonder if the ramp angles are the same? Normally with a steep *** ramp you have loud valvetrain, I know the UGR's are suppose to have the same measrements, but are the ramp angles the same? I'm drunk.

RedZone

no you shouldn't hear it over that but what valve springs and retainers are you using with it?