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Old 09-09-2011, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by FkingSUV
Sounds like your cousin needs a tune?
He put down 235/160 on a dyno-jet.

My car is pretty light, like 2,090 lbs. B16 tranny too, so that helps.
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2090lbs with you in it?
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2,240 w/ me in it.
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Impressive, good job
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Originally Posted by Zaraki
Wait, so you're at 208whp in your hatch and you couldn't pull that RSX-S???

I have a 93 Si w/ 200whp and I've raced my cousins RSX-S w/ basically the same mods(I/H/E/RBC/Cams/K-Pro) and pulled him every time. Dig, 40 roll, 60 roll, etc.
We even switched cars and he'd beat me when he drove mine.
I'm willing to bet your hatch is lighter than the one in the vid, if I'm not mistaken it's full interior/weight including the spare and also had a full tank of gas that night, where as the RSX was almost empty...although, factor in that I was filming inside the RSX as well. What header/cams/exhaust is your cousin running?

I'd love to see the hatch add some cams, I think the run would be pretty even, maybe the RSX would creep up top but it would be close for sure. Can't wait to see the giggle gas hooked up, gonna hurt some feelings out there for sure....and damn, I need my car back lol, I wanna play too. Good runs

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Originally Posted by Zaraki
Wait, so you're at 208whp in your hatch and you couldn't pull that RSX-S???

I have a 93 Si w/ 200whp and I've raced my cousins RSX-S w/ basically the same mods(I/H/E/RBC/Cams/K-Pro) and pulled him every time. Dig, 40 roll, 60 roll, etc.
We even switched cars and he'd beat me when he drove mine.
Power-to-weight ratio. Hatches maybe under powered but they weigh alot less depending on the model, driver, interior, etc...Talking too general..
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Results are in!
Had a terrible night of 'oil down' issues at Englishtown last night. only got 2 runs in, not nearly as much practice as i had hoped for on a quiet Wednesday night. It was also my first time playing with a launch limiter. first run bogged, second run wheel hopped.

Both runs were nearly identical ET & Trap with a 14.2x@97.x
On the scales the hatch in full street trim was 2460lbs with my 250 in the drivers seat.
I'll post the slips later.
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yeah, my car was right around 2400ish lbs with me in it and I made alot less HP (on another dyno) then you did and I ran a 14.5 @ 94.88 MPH. On another dynomite dyno i made 160whp with a bisimoto header and when I ran the 1/4 mile I was still on a stock header so prob. more like 140whp, so it seems like xenocron has a pretty high reading dyno at least compared to the one I was using
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well 2380 with a full tank of gas, spare tire and everything else and me in it ( I weigh around 135lbs so i've got a weight reduction right there haha)
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the Si Civic chassis is a bit heavier than the CX/DX/VX versions cause of the ABS, power sunroof and more material in the doors etc I think...

I think you will only see the RSX able to pull ont he civic if you need 120mph runs lol...the weight in the RSX is gonna hold it back against the civic night and day...
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**** you lighter chassis lol. I would be happy to weigh 2600lbs with me in the car. I ran a 14.7 @ 95.5 weighing probably a good 2800lbs. I'd love to get the car on a diet with plexiglass windows, composite hood, roof, and trunk...but it isn't a strict race car.
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Originally Posted by FkingSUV
Results are in!
Had a terrible night of 'oil down' issues at Englishtown last night. only got 2 runs in, not nearly as much practice as i had hoped for on a quiet Wednesday night. It was also my first time playing with a launch limiter. first run bogged, second run wheel hopped.

Both runs were nearly identical ET & Trap with a 14.2x@97.x
On the scales the hatch in full street trim was 2460lbs with my 250 in the drivers seat.
I'll post the slips later.
To be fair, Girth's 335xi runs were ripped to shreds on the BMW forums, so I'm thinking last night just wasn't an optimum time to run, temperature and testing wise. His 335 only trapped 104 w/ the Vishnu Procede, 3.5 inch DP + charge pipe. People are trapping 103-104 bone stock for reference.
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Originally Posted by FkingSUV
great. thanks for the response. I spent a lot of time reading threw your results while planning this build.
i may do some cams at some point, but the truth is, the car is a riot to drive at this power level. Nitrous should be a simple answer for the few times i take the car out looking for trouble.
Nitrous is the way to go, a nice little 50-75 shot when you need it

The beauty of Hondata is you can turn it on/off as easy as flipping a switch as well!
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I just picked up a S300 the other day. Still trying to decide who to have tune it, for simple bolt on's I think a lot of people charge way to ****ing much. A boosted setup is understandable because there are much more factors involved to make that run smoothly.
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Nice dyno numbers OP.
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Originally Posted by FkingSUV
Sounds like your cousin needs a tune?
OR you're not making 208 at the wheels. @ 2150lbs and barely 201 whp there I'm deep in the 12's
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Originally Posted by FkingSUV
Both runs were nearly identical ET & Trap with a 14.2x@97.x
On the scales the hatch in full street trim was 2460lbs with my 250 in the drivers seat.
I'll post the slips later.
Ouch....
I'm guessing that dyno reads a little high?

Regardless, it's a nice car.
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OR you're not making 208 at the wheels. @ 2150lbs and barely 201 whp there I'm deep in the 12's
When people out of state sit around and try to compare WHP numbers and other cars to their own I just sit and SMH. What if your dyno isn't accurate? Ever thought of that? lol, can't stand people who bitch about dyno numbers...who cares, a dyno is supposed to be used as a TUNING TOOL, not a measuring stick to see who has the biggest ****.

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Originally Posted by Kick toze Liver
When people out of state sit around and try to compare WHP numbers and other cars to their own I just sit and SMH. What if your dyno isn't accurate? Ever thought of that? lol, can't stand people who bitch about dyno numbers...who cares, a dyno is supposed to be used as a TUNING TOOL, not a measuring stick to see who has the biggest ****.
This is so true about dyno numbers. You really cant compare the actual numbers, only the numbers from your dyno tuning session...

Does a Dynojet read high or does a Mustang dyno read low? How about a Dynapak? It doesnt really matter... Its the changes during the tuning session that matter.

BTW- Thats a nice sounding TL!! Nice runs in "Canada"

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Are 725cc injectors a bit large for a NA b18C? do you plan on running E85 or something?
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Are 725cc injectors a bit large for a NA b18C? do you plan on running E85 or something?
I think you are able to run the ID725's duty cycle low enough enough for it to come out some where around 3xx cc's. ID's are the ****
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I think you are able to run the ID725's duty cycle low enough enough for it to come out some where around 3xx cc's. ID's are the ****

Bingo. ID's are the hotness. I know guys running id 1k on na 4 bangers

I personally chose the 725's for overhead and room to grow. More mods incomming as soon as time allow. Trying to make up my mind on cams right now s2s2 or pro1s are in the near future
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Ahh cool, cause that size would seem pretty good for E85 right? I had been informed that E85 cars take around 50% more fuel??

Even cams... I wouldn't think you would need over 425cc injectors for ANY NA 4 cylinder unless you were E85... Oh well.
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Ahh cool, cause that size would seem pretty good for E85 right? I had been informed that E85 cars take around 50% more fuel??

Even cams... I wouldn't think you would need over 425cc injectors for ANY NA 4 cylinder unless you were E85... Oh well.
e85 would be fun forsure. Hondata controlled nitrous would be better.
personally id love to see someone work out a GM flexfuel sensor. my immediate area is covered with the stuff, but id hate to have to go hunting when out of town.
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Get one of the sensors and read the data sheet.. I'm sure you can make some sort of adapter that is right on the fuel rail.

You will need to figure out what the sensor spits out in terms of voltage/resistance and figure out the compensation value this voltage/resistance = this much flex fuel... and the opposite for the other end of the spectrum.


Tuning .... lets just say..... will be annoying

Then figure out which input pin on your ecu is available.... but that's the last of your worries


I'd take on that challenge if someone had a dyno and a car for me to experiment with.. Oh yeah and lots of time

so if you got all those things handy I can help you


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