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Old 08-10-2009, 06:41 AM
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Old 08-10-2009, 01:20 PM
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Yes, you can get them from T1 or Xenocron on here.
Cant go wrong with these 2 guys,if they have no stock of the 725cc units let me know I have them in stock here in Australia.
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Old 08-10-2009, 02:26 PM
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I saw on the injector dynamics site they have a 530cc injector, why doesnt any one use these?
Old 08-11-2009, 03:05 AM
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when i last spoke to jeff evans and tony (yes the man himself lol) they weren't available yet. i guess they're still going through testing. this was about 2 months back
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what about the injectors from the Acura RDX? I thought they flowed in the neighborhood of 400+? And theres really no sense in using such a larger injector needed is there? I thought it was easier to tune/drive at low RPMs, even though this engine likely won't see much low RPM, good low revs on an RR car can do wonders
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And theres really no sense in using such a larger injector needed is there?
Originally Posted by mar778c
Stop thinking and start with some research. It's not the type of induction or the size of the injector but the spray pattern.
Originally Posted by Uncle Dave
We have REAL world figures from dyno to lap times to backup how good these injectors are
I will never use anything else as long as T1 is selling them.With the setup this guy has I would use the 725cc units the only reason I did not was they where not released when I needed something for our setup.You are using S300 so a smart tuner will be able to make power with bigger injectors.
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Thank you for pointing out why it is necessary to run larger injectors then are needed. And you quoted the post saying he would have used the smaller injectors if they were on the market.

If you were trying to shore up my point...thanks? If you were trying to tear it down, try again.

But hey, good job quoting someone else and not providing any more input. Vague posts really help clear things up.
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Thank you for pointing out why it is necessary to run larger injectors then are needed. And you quoted the post saying he would have used the smaller injectors if they were on the market.

If you were trying to shore up my point...thanks? If you were trying to tear it down, try again.

But hey, good job quoting someone else and not providing any more input. Vague posts really help clear things up.

Ok, I'm going to make this real simple for you since reading and research are little out of your league.

The injector dynamics atomize fuel better than anything commerically available for the market. This was proven by Uncle Dave and a host of racers all-motor and forced induction with back to back tests. Uncle Dave was kind enough to post his results. If you had taken the time to do a little research you would have found out that the size of the injector is irrelevent because this injectors are very stable at very very low pulse width durations. In other words, these injectors are better than your smaller OEM injectors at running a stock motor. The 1000's can make a b16a idle better than a set of 240 cc OEM.

As for your point, you did not have one. You don't know enough to make one.

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nice vid
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Listen here buttercup. Maybe YOU should do some research and find out what the deal is on the RDX injectors before you go off telling me what I do, or don't know.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/all-motor-naturally-aspirated-44/anyone-using-acura-rdx-injectors-410cc-%2437ea-1871137/
Let me point you to this thread, in which you made the THIRD post.

So the next time you tell me what I don't know, why not tell me about all of the people i've told about these injectors? And you can get 1000CCs to run a stock single cam. Is it necessary? no. Will it idle/run better at low RPMs? yes. So why would i run 1KCC injectors?

Now if you would like to politely excuse yourself from me recommending something to the OP, that would be greatly appreciated.
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Originally Posted by jlude90
Listen here buttercup. Maybe YOU should do some research and find out what the deal is on the RDX injectors before you go off telling me what I do, or don't know.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1871137
Let me point you to this thread, in which you made the THIRD post.
Wow, that was more two years ago and I know exactly what a set of RDX are capable of. But I guess improvements in injector technology that can yield increases in whp don't interest you.

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So the next time you tell me what I don't know, why not tell me about all of the people i've told about these injectors?
Whether you told some about RDX injectors is irrelevant.

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And you can get 1000CCs to run a stock single cam. Is it necessary? no. Will it idle/run better at low RPMs? yes. So why would i run 1KCC injectors?
Increase in whp. As I've stated previously the size does not matter. What matters are the injector characteristics. In this case, they are absolutely superior to a RDX injector.

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Now if you would like to politely excuse yourself from me recommending something to the OP, that would be greatly appreciated.

Your ignorance is amazing. But I'll make a recommendation that is actually worthwhile considering I've tuned engines with OEM, precision, RC, RDX, and Injector dynamics. If you get the 1000's you will probably never have to buy another injector again unless you plan to make more than 750 whp. Also, you will see the benefits of better atomization via more whp. Last time I checked, the difference in price from the 725 to the 1000 was maybe 3 dollars.

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Old 08-11-2009, 08:15 PM
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I mean telling people about the ID injectors, like, back before they were called IDs. And I'm pretty sure the IDs are using the same tech as the RDX injectors.

so you're saying either way that running a smaller injector of the same technology isn't a smarter idea? And can you point me to the differences in the ID and RDX injectors?
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Originally Posted by mar778c
Ok, I'm going to make this real simple for you since reading and research are little out of your league.

The injector dynamics atomize fuel better than anything commerically available for the market. This was proven by Uncle Dave and a host of racers all-motor and forced induction with back to back tests. Uncle Dave was kind enough to post his results. If you had taken the time to do a little research you would have found out that the size of the injector is irrelevent because this injectors are very stable at very very low pulse width durations. In other words, these injectors are better than your smaller OEM injectors at running a stock motor. The 1000's can make a b16a idle better than a set of 240 cc OEM.

As for your point, you did not have one. You don't know enough to make one.
first of all, he is the kind of person who DOES do research on information he wants to know about (and even stuff he sees and wants to see proof of) and he doesnt take everyone word for it. He is a very intuitive type of person so maybe if you had a real conversion instead of trying to cut him down, you could both learn something from each other.

* my only post that i will give to this piece of **** site.
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Originally Posted by jlude90
I mean telling people about the ID injectors, like, back before they were called IDs. And I'm pretty sure the IDs are using the same tech as the RDX injectors.
I can't comment on the construction but I've seen the characteristic curves and the ID's look like a different animal to me.

Originally Posted by jlude90
so you're saying either way that running a smaller injector of the same technology isn't a smarter idea?
Why, when you can have all the injector you would need for anything short of 750 whp. The difference in cost is minimal. The knock against the big injectors were they could not behave like small injectors during idle and part throttle duty. That has changed.
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curves of the ID vs the rdx? or even rdx v rc and id v rc. But it seems like the care taken for making the IDs is something that honda would have done as well, after all they were after the same goal weren't they?

And i'm sure that a 1K CC ID vs a 1K RC would be better at low load/idle. but wouldn't a 530 vs 1K ID be better still? Kinda makes me wonder why they offer smaller ones at all if there is no advantage.
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Originally Posted by 98vtec
first of all, he is the kind of person who DOES do research on information he wants to know about (and even stuff he sees and wants to see proof of) and he doesnt take everyone word for it. He is a very intuitive type of person so maybe if you had a real conversion instead of trying to cut him down, you could both learn something from each other.

* my only post that i will give to this piece of **** site.
I was not trying to cut anyone down. I posted what I thought was most relevent.

He took my post as a offense.
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Nice video. What clutch/flywheel setup are you running?
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I'll check out the vids when I get off work..looks like a sweet setup

What intake manifold are you using?
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thats cool buddy ! im sure it makes more power then that tho !
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awesome!
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Are you from Guatemala, I know a guy in Dominican Republic that can help you find more whp and he is a god in terms of Hondata, if you want I would give you his cell phone and email....

Jeremy 829-917-7921 and his mail is : jeremy76ne@yahoo.com
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Awesome man!
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they made Lhd ek9????????????
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Default Re: skunkpro3 with b20 race engine onboard practice vid

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Nice video. What clutch/flywheel setup are you running?
thanks ats twin plate carbon disk clutch
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they made Lhd ek9????????????
yes i made it, it's more easy to drive , and i can drive it on the street with any problem with the police when i take it to the dino, or to balance the car


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