sIrKicK

Hi, im trying to contact manley to ask them for a doubt about 603000-4 piston kit but i havent any answer from them. Could you help me? I need to know if the piston kit 603000-4 81mm from manley can be installed in the oem B18C1 C.Rods. If you can solve my doubt you will help me so much.

Thank You!.

sIrKicK

My worry is if the piston pins could be blocked for temp with the piston or c.rod installing oem c.rods of b18c1

sIrKicK

could anybody help me?

4g hatch

as long as there b-series pistons they will work,just use the stock press fit wrist pins. lots of people have used forged pistons on stock rods

sIrKicK

The piston kit comes with their fit wrist pins.. could i use stock?¿ i think that this could be a bad idea. no?
Stock wrist pins are locked with hot in the piston... the manley wrist pins are unlocked and only two clips maintain the wrist pins in their place. (sorry for my english.. i try to explain it as well as i can). I fear that could be noisy or have a problem with the stock c.rod.
Could anybody clear my doubts? thank you.

paulzy

iTrader: (1)

you need to modify the stock rods to accept free floating pins. Not worth it IMO, just get a set of eagles and call it a day. By the time you modify the small ends to accept the new pins, modify them to use ARP bolts, you'd be out close to what a set of eagles go for.

sIrKicK

I dont want to change the c.rods to avoid change the rod bearings too because mines are in perfect condition and adapted to the crankshaft, and i dont want to spend so much money. But i dont want to have then a problem with this, and i prefer to have it clear. Is it better to get a eagle c.rods? I dont want to modify stock rods...

sIrKicK

What could happen if stock c.rods are installed in a piston kit with free floating pins?

88Hatchy

Many people have used forged pistons on OEM rods without doing this.

OP, you can use OEM pistons and get a decent bump in compression without having to have the block machined.

sIrKicK

I have the block and the header modified, but im looking to get over 11 to 11.5 in compression. Im doing an engine with B18C1 block (B18C4 here in spain) and B16A2 header, both are reviewed and modified and are ready to mount, but i need to have this doubt clear to begin with the engine.

I have another civic with a d16z6 turbo and think that i had a problem with vitaras and eagles. The engine runs very well, but it have a noise when its cold and below 3000rpm, and i think that could be for the pistons circlips and free floating pins, no slap, but im not sure what is, and i dont want to have a problem in this engine, because im doing to race in circuits and go hardly.

4g hatch

the forged piston will work fine on stock rods,just press them on with the stock wrist pins.
as for the vitara's they all sound like that. in the f.i section there is a thread abou them,and even guys who use the press fit pins still have that diesel sound. i think they just come with a loose p2w clearance.

sIrKicK

So, i have to install the c.rods as stock pistons, with heat, no? the wrist pins will be blocked in the piston, no floating and holded with circlips..., no?

In the vitaras, i applied a teflon layer before install it, and over 4000kms the engine make no sound. After 4000kms began to do this sound, but only below 3000rpms. Now im doing between 260 to 300hp and car run fine, but i was a little worry with this sound. im using silikonen 10W50, and works great or Mobil1 5W50 and a abro oil treatment.

Thank you for answer.

paulzy

iTrader: (1)

there are some local guys who run crazy *** P2W clearences with vitaras because they're too cheap to bore .020 over. Some dude I know had .070 P2W in his d16 because the cylinders were so worn.

4piston

I see stupid piston to wall all the time and it hurts power and wears hard on your pistons and cylinders. Do it right guys.

Why not just save up $300 and get some H-beams and be done with it? You will regret doing half *** stuff sooner than you think.

sIrKicK

Manley pins are 22,02mm in diameter and stock pins are 22,00. I will install it with Manley pins in stock rods. What do you think?

ThompsonTJ

not sure

sIrKicK

I already have the stock c.rod installed in manley pistons. I will install it in engine this week.