Dyno of SMSP D16 Street Car
01-17-2006, 09:39 AM
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Re: Dyno of SMSP D16 Street Car (sohc_boy)
my homie mad 130 whp with a sohc zc
mods
1. ported and polished head by hrd
2.bull frog throttle body
3. custom cam
4. apex afc
5. dc 4-2-1 header
6. custom exhaust
7. cold air intake
this was 3 years ago at aebs
old block never rebuilt
i suggest a bigger cam and youll make way more power
my friend used stock springs and retainers just did something with the shimms i forgot what he meant by that
mods
1. ported and polished head by hrd
2.bull frog throttle body
3. custom cam
4. apex afc
5. dc 4-2-1 header
6. custom exhaust
7. cold air intake
this was 3 years ago at aebs
old block never rebuilt
i suggest a bigger cam and youll make way more power
my friend used stock springs and retainers just did something with the shimms i forgot what he meant by that
01-17-2006, 12:16 PM
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Re: Dyno of SMSP D16 Street Car (sohc_boy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sohc_boy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just curious but did you play with advancing cam timing to bring the it under that 8600 range on the gude cam thats in there now?</TD></TR></TABLE>
that is bill gude behind that 8600 number....one of the several reasons he is not-so-mysteriously not a player in any capacity anymore in this industry.
Dave, converse to what Greg said, i actually think the numbers are fair considering the header mismatch (which is severe IMO) and old bill gudified cam profile
i think so far we've seen half the story. with more tuning, a different (better) cam and the right header, you will be right up there where you should be...
at this point you are making the power of a b16, rated at 160chp, with presumably a better torque curve...all w/ an engine originally rated at 106chp...and it's not nearly dialed in yet.
that is bill gude behind that 8600 number....one of the several reasons he is not-so-mysteriously not a player in any capacity anymore in this industry.
Dave, converse to what Greg said, i actually think the numbers are fair considering the header mismatch (which is severe IMO) and old bill gudified cam profile
i think so far we've seen half the story. with more tuning, a different (better) cam and the right header, you will be right up there where you should be...
at this point you are making the power of a b16, rated at 160chp, with presumably a better torque curve...all w/ an engine originally rated at 106chp...and it's not nearly dialed in yet.
01-17-2006, 12:55 PM
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Re: Dyno of SMSP D16 Street Car (builthatch)
Dave and i have talked and decided that cam is for more RPM's than he wants to run. The lobe separation is prob. to large and to much duration. I did not degree the cams, just checked lift and valve to valve on the head itself, not installed. Because the "sweet spot" on the cam is very narrow it probably runs at a much higher RPM than he wants. He has a new cam coning and I would also like to see it on the stock SI cam.
01-17-2006, 05:04 PM
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Re: Dyno of SMSP D16 Street Car (SMSP)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SMSP »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well it looks like Exospeed is going to help me out with another cam.</TD></TR></TABLE>
awesome!
any idea on what "stage" cam? I am running a similar setup, only difference is the cam and header. The RaceA6 and a 421DC. ISKY vavletrain and the SECU from Zdyne. I am in the process of some ITB's, but family comes first. What headgasket are you using? Did i miss what engine management?
I love the All-Mota D !
awesome!
any idea on what "stage" cam? I am running a similar setup, only difference is the cam and header. The RaceA6 and a 421DC. ISKY vavletrain and the SECU from Zdyne. I am in the process of some ITB's, but family comes first. What headgasket are you using? Did i miss what engine management?
I love the All-Mota D !
01-21-2006, 04:48 PM
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Re: Dyno of SMSP D16 Street Car (busychild)
The cam should be at Exospeed Mnday or Tuesday, I still haven't decided what grind to go with.
I installed a new header tonight.
I installed a new header tonight.
01-24-2006, 04:21 PM
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Re: Dyno of SMSP D16 Street Car (SMSP)
Hey Dave.....EXCELLENT to see Steve still up to his old tricks!!!!!!! He's one WICKED tuner and Honda guru!!!!!!
Tuning by SGT
Tuning by SGT
01-24-2006, 04:58 PM
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Re: Dyno of SMSP D16 Street Car (1250b18c5)
I guess I can see the appeal of this as a "fun project", but in reality You could likely have a B16 with bolt ons (and make roughly the same numbers) for the amount of money that an AVERAGE person would need to spend to get those numbers. Still a cool project though.
01-24-2006, 05:15 PM
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Re: Dyno of SMSP D16 Street Car
I believe I'm going with the Exospeed Stage 3 cam (A6 Race). Just not sure if I should opt for the springs so I could increase the redline beyond 7000 and make the bigger numbers that you guys like to see. 
I hope with the new header and cam I'll get a very nice bump in torque which will make this a nicer street engine than the B16, plus the car feels lighter than with the old B series in her.
I hope with the new header and cam I'll get a very nice bump in torque which will make this a nicer street engine than the B16, plus the car feels lighter than with the old B series in her.
01-28-2006, 07:36 AM
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Re: Dyno of SMSP D16 Street Car (eg4matze)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg4matze »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cool you swapped an d in an b-series car
very nice build</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes you could. it has been done numerous times!
very nice build</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes you could. it has been done numerous times!
02-05-2006, 12:01 PM
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Re: Dyno of SMSP D16 Street Car (MI KENT)
The Exospeed stage 3 (A6 Race) cam should be here towards the end of this week. Might dyno the week of the 13th or 20th.
02-05-2006, 03:13 PM
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Re: Dyno of SMSP D16 Street Car (SMSP)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SMSP »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Exospeed stage 3 (A6 Race) cam should be here towards the end of this week. Might dyno the week of the 13th or 20th.</TD></TR></TABLE>
how is the specs dave? duration lift etc ?
how is the specs dave? duration lift etc ?
02-05-2006, 04:01 PM
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Re: Dyno of SMSP D16 Street Car (jt-sport)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jt-sport »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
how is the specs dave? duration lift etc ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Stage 3
Lift
Intake Exhaust
.400 .400
Duration
Intake Exhaust
272 272 @.010"
I don't have numbers at 1mm. I just hope it helps bump the mid range.
how is the specs dave? duration lift etc ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Stage 3
Lift
Intake Exhaust
.400 .400
Duration
Intake Exhaust
272 272 @.010"
I don't have numbers at 1mm. I just hope it helps bump the mid range.
02-21-2006, 11:41 AM
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Re: (eg4matze)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg4matze »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">have you installed the cam?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, it's not here yet. Should be coming in this week.
No, it's not here yet. Should be coming in this week.
02-23-2006, 01:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shocker »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damn Jt-Sport your a6 build if crazy.....any updates on that new cam??</TD></TR></TABLE>
nope shocker, the project has been stoped , sorry the car has been sold about a 1-2 month ago due some financial problem
, so we only have the D16Y to play with --> https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1313920
nope shocker, the project has been stoped , sorry the car has been sold about a 1-2 month ago due some financial problem
, so we only have the D16Y to play with --> https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1313920
02-25-2006, 05:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aquafina »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice nice. When will people start kicking themselves for swapping out their D for a B?</TD></TR></TABLE>
When a D16 that has increased compression, cams, porting, and an SMSP header puts out more power and torque than a B18C with the same mods. But ~130WHP is certainly not enough to make me switch back. Not to put down SMSP, of course. I would take one of their B-series headers in a heartbeat......if I could afford one, that is.
When a D16 that has increased compression, cams, porting, and an SMSP header puts out more power and torque than a B18C with the same mods. But ~130WHP is certainly not enough to make me switch back. Not to put down SMSP, of course. I would take one of their B-series headers in a heartbeat......if I could afford one, that is.
