BMo Tuning

Of course It can be done, If done properly, let's not wild.

BMo Tuning

nice setup, nice power OP.

UncleD

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Thread had potential...but was quickly washed away by punks who only see in black and white. You kids should pat yourself on the back.

Derek
Mikey

96dxB16

Wasn't it quickly headed that way with nearly the same title as another thread saying NEVER USE CTR PISTONS except in a B16?

Then the first line of this thread?

"I figured with all the hype, hate and controversy over CTR pistons and how they can never work.......i'd go ahead and post a combo with results on them working. "

Did I miss some sort of internet sarcasm (like i did an in an earlier post)? I'm so confizzled now..

UncleD

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It was the "well I wonder what _______ has to say now???" type ****..

What is this, highschool??

96dxB16

seems like it yes.

Nice to see someone posting real world information though, so props to the OP.

Out of the rabbit hole yet?

MikeySpec

It is what it is homies.....

I didnt make this thread to promote beef and drama, it was more to solidify and verify some points. As a guy whos been in this industry for over 12 years i come from a time before forums and kids finding random unproven "facts" off the internet. If i hear one more guy walk through my door and say "this dude on honda-tech said" im gonna hang myself with a keyboard cord.

d112crzy

This can happen with any high dome piston. What you said has nothing to do with CTR's. Of course if ANYTHING isn't built right it's going to fail, specially untuned.

You make a lot of retarded statements, ALL MOTOR. Just keep your mouse pointer off the "submit reply" button.

bambam

Honda-tech is the least one to worry about. I hate hearing about honda-swap or b20vtec. And im a goddamn moderator in the n/a forum on b20vtec.com but I've abandoned that plane without parachute...so many goddamn 18-20 year old ignorant immature stubborn street racers.

/rant

mouab18c1

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Awesome build OP.

And for the last time, leave Derek Dunbar alone. LOL he's a pretty cool dude.

95 Integra gsr

LOL @ this clown

N/A

I can vouch for this, he's always willing to help when you need it. But as always..



When is everyone gonna realize that the more of us reasearching and working together will yield more results? This bickering and closed minded **** won't get anybody anywhere.


Sooo with that said, anyone have weight measurements for p30s/pr3s/p73s compared to the CTRS?

Also mikey would it be possible to get some clay on the tip of a sparkplug and see how much clearance you have for piston to plug? And don't forget what plug/gap are you using

Perhaps we should discuss flame travel and dome pistons

wEaK Squad *ATL*

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^ in for this info ^

DDTECH

retarded statements?

What if i happen to like the submit button or what if, i meant to click preview post and it went to submit on accident and then i just became that lazy that i didn't care to edit..


you got a problem with me too? I need to start making a list again, although I've come to terms you can't please everyone.

I pmed Mikey, this thread wasn't to show me anything, in fact, it was to show the other side of the fence...respectfully both Mikey and I have been doing this along time and probably both of us have a lot of different opinions on how things should work and should be done. I posted a thread and stated my opinions and explained why.. Mikey just did the same as me.

Mikey is free and entitled to his own opinion, and unlike others who don't respect mine, i respect his. I also did agree with what he said, if done correctly its a good setup.. i'll leave it at that, as this thread started trolling @ page 2.

96dxB16

I don't think a piston hitting a spark plug is opinion.... Or piston hitting the head is an opinion...

MikeySpec

True that, if those clearances were opinion.....i'd be ****ed.

1998GsRIntegra

Why don't you just read your own signature. It describes you from the word go. Ears open, mouth shut. Listen to what everyone has to say. Stop flaming one person and trolling up this thread because your not happy with some one elses opinion.

zap

very good power for a true 1.8liter. good work!

95 Integra gsr

or they would hit in a b16 also. same oem 3 layer head gasket, same v-tec head. so dose a spark plug have issue on a b16?

95 Integra gsr

that someone else's opinion is being proven wrong, false, and don't hold up water in this thread.
you should take your own advise JR. i been doing this since mid to late 90's, b4 the days we had internet to run to for help.

MikeySpec

Terrible pic but.....

Next time you have a cp piston for 12.5:1 compression for an 81mm bore, feel free to measure the dome against a CTR. Let me know which one has a higher dome and less clearance for a spark plug. I'll give you a hint.....its forged.

Furyof4

^Thank you. I don't know who started the spark plug rumor but its not a prob on ctr's. Someone's exaggerating a little lol.

00Red_SiR

The real clearance problems come in when using the 89mm crank and a GSR head. Many other builds that use forged pistons in the 12:1+ range have very large, sharp domes in them, similar to the CTR pistons but they don't catch the same flack because they aren't "CTR pistons". Large domes do affect flame propagation, but they don't stop it. Large dome forged pistons are usually lighter than CTR's because of being forged and that's a decent advantage. People get too caught up in the "black and white" of building motors and selecting parts sometimes. There's a lot of grey and just because a build or part selection isn't "ideal" doesn't mean it won't last or make power. You just have to know your limits and set reasonable expectations for what you use.

I wouldn't choose to use the CTR pistons in my build personally because I believe there are better choices out there but that doesn't mean they won't work and I'm not going to chew someone out for using them.

96dxB16

I'm not trying to be a dick or say this is where it started, I'm just trying to avoid mis-information from being spread around. I know people get defensive of members who have helped and post a lot on the forum; but we really should do our best to post factual information instead of rumors. This is not a matter of opinion its a matter of fact. Lets not defend our comments as opinions when they are not.

Want to have an opinionated discussion?

I'd like to know what people think about the dome design of that CP piston vs the CTR piston in terms of benefit/cost ratio. Flame propagation and cylinder scavenging based on dome design. Potential to detonation with sharp edges?

TheShodan

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Indeed