new nsx engine
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Re: (helicopter201)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by helicopter201 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what about a 4rotor 3liter rotary...</TD></TR></TABLE>
(bitch slap) don't you ever say rotory and nsx int he same sentence.
(bitch slap) don't you ever say rotory and nsx int he same sentence.
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Re: (helicopter201)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by helicopter201 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what about a 4rotor 3liter rotary...im sure honda could fix the infamous rotary sealing problems if they took the time and effort to do so. of coarse some people would start whining that rotaries cant be measured in liters the same way as pistons can but i concede..some people just cant accept a superior design...anyway any thoughts?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, cause the rotary has really proven itself to be a 'superior design' in practice. Anyone else hear about how many of the RX-8 engines are being replaced??
Exactly what I want, an engine with LESS torque AND a shittier power curve than a Honda, all with the unreliability and shorter life span! Sign me up!!
Yeah, cause the rotary has really proven itself to be a 'superior design' in practice. Anyone else hear about how many of the RX-8 engines are being replaced??
Exactly what I want, an engine with LESS torque AND a shittier power curve than a Honda, all with the unreliability and shorter life span! Sign me up!!
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(oh yeah, did I mention I own a '88 FC RX-7... with plans to plop an LS1 in it??)
And just to keep the thread on track & stop the rotary talk, the next NSX SHOULD have a small displacemtn V8 in it reminiscent of what they are building for various open wheel racing sects.
That being said, what they WILL have is a weird V6 or V8 electric hybrid, as their focus lately has been on highly efficient & clean cars. Honda has been straying from the pure performance avenue since the late 90's. Also, electric assist adds substantial weight.
It will also be more geared toward luxury & will therefore gain weight. Acura is going after BMW, and trying to stay ahead of Lexus & Infiniti. They've learned their lesson that a perfect mid-engine track machine sells for crap.
cliffnotes: Buy the current NSX now so you can bitch about how far the NSX has strayed away when it comes out.
$0.02, over and out.
And just to keep the thread on track & stop the rotary talk, the next NSX SHOULD have a small displacemtn V8 in it reminiscent of what they are building for various open wheel racing sects.
That being said, what they WILL have is a weird V6 or V8 electric hybrid, as their focus lately has been on highly efficient & clean cars. Honda has been straying from the pure performance avenue since the late 90's. Also, electric assist adds substantial weight.
It will also be more geared toward luxury & will therefore gain weight. Acura is going after BMW, and trying to stay ahead of Lexus & Infiniti. They've learned their lesson that a perfect mid-engine track machine sells for crap.
cliffnotes: Buy the current NSX now so you can bitch about how far the NSX has strayed away when it comes out.
$0.02, over and out.
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Re: new nsx engine (Speed Monkey)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Speed Monkey »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To compete with the Supra and Skyline, the NSX will need 4wd and crazy hp and turbos sticking out all over. But it has never competed with these before.
Light chassis, low displacement, high reving, RWD is what Honda is good at.</TD></TR></TABLE> mid engine awd v8 4.0L with a high redline could bring in an all new crowd.
....and this crowd will be over 18. 
Light chassis, low displacement, high reving, RWD is what Honda is good at.</TD></TR></TABLE> mid engine awd v8 4.0L with a high redline could bring in an all new crowd.
....and this crowd will be over 18.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KraZEtEggIE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not that I plan on owning an nsx, but I think an ivtec v8 would be the best option. it would be such a smooth reving motor with a sound that only a ferrari could compete with. I hope the they spend some time on the interior, i never liked the nsx interior.</TD></TR></TABLE>
V8's do not = smooth revving. Inherently.
V8's do not = smooth revving. Inherently.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Plim »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Where have you guys been... it's already been confirmed.
5.0L naturally aspirated V10 rated at approximatly 500HP.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think they're arguing for arguing's sake.
Besides, we all know Honda is outsourcing the engine to Bugatti.
5.0L naturally aspirated V10 rated at approximatly 500HP.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think they're arguing for arguing's sake.
Besides, we all know Honda is outsourcing the engine to Bugatti.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Knightsport »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">V8's do not = smooth revving. Inherently.</TD></TR></TABLE> till you look at engines like ferarri's v8s.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Knightsport »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">V8's do not = smooth revving. Inherently.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Take a look at this.
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-...40875
Acura V10 engine / sports car.
Well, as almost every month / week, “Bestcar” has another look at a possible Acura sports coupe, and some talking about the upcoming Honda V10. Although announced as a “Top Secret” scoop, as always I wouldn’t really put to much emphasis on the accuracy of this information. They also claim though to have had an interview with somebody that has seen a real concept. Here is in short what they say though:
It will arrive in ’08, together with the introduction of the Acura brand in Japan.
Honda will give a clear design clue in Detroit in the Acura PR event (that apparently that man has seen).
V10 powerplant will be a 4.5L, smaller than current BMW’s M5 and the upcoming Lexus V10. They also say that it would have a V angle of 95º, similar to F1 engines, and that for that reason the body will have to be wider. It should reach around 120PS/L with max output of 550Hp. Power is said to come to the wheels through a Semi-AT transmission.
Platform is said to be a newly developed FR+SH-AWD setup, together with a new suspension design, and inheriting an all aluminium body construction from past-gen NSX.
Style is said to be more in the line of British GT’s than Italian Ferraris. According to the source, he can’t really find similarities with other cars on the road, although he says that you could say it’s a Honda (Acura), but that you couldn’t think of it as a NSX successor.
Price would be in line with past-gen NSX (priced around 10 – 12 Million yen), which would be considerably cheaper than Lexus targeted price of 15-20 MYen for their GT-car. Please do not translate those figures into dollars at today’s rates. Car prices in Japan have remained unchanged for really long time despite Yen recent depreciation. For sure overseas market’s prices would be more expensive than just translating the currencies.
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-...40875
Acura V10 engine / sports car.
Well, as almost every month / week, “Bestcar” has another look at a possible Acura sports coupe, and some talking about the upcoming Honda V10. Although announced as a “Top Secret” scoop, as always I wouldn’t really put to much emphasis on the accuracy of this information. They also claim though to have had an interview with somebody that has seen a real concept. Here is in short what they say though:
It will arrive in ’08, together with the introduction of the Acura brand in Japan.
Honda will give a clear design clue in Detroit in the Acura PR event (that apparently that man has seen).
V10 powerplant will be a 4.5L, smaller than current BMW’s M5 and the upcoming Lexus V10. They also say that it would have a V angle of 95º, similar to F1 engines, and that for that reason the body will have to be wider. It should reach around 120PS/L with max output of 550Hp. Power is said to come to the wheels through a Semi-AT transmission.
Platform is said to be a newly developed FR+SH-AWD setup, together with a new suspension design, and inheriting an all aluminium body construction from past-gen NSX.
Style is said to be more in the line of British GT’s than Italian Ferraris. According to the source, he can’t really find similarities with other cars on the road, although he says that you could say it’s a Honda (Acura), but that you couldn’t think of it as a NSX successor.
Price would be in line with past-gen NSX (priced around 10 – 12 Million yen), which would be considerably cheaper than Lexus targeted price of 15-20 MYen for their GT-car. Please do not translate those figures into dollars at today’s rates. Car prices in Japan have remained unchanged for really long time despite Yen recent depreciation. For sure overseas market’s prices would be more expensive than just translating the currencies.
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Re: (JDMorgan)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMorgan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much is 10 million yen?</TD></TR></TABLE>
About 87k depending on current conversion rates.
Re: the TOV article...fairly sure that's not the next gen "NSX." It is too outside the formula for what makes the NSX unique: aluminium chassis, MR, etc. I'd wager that this is, as the article implies, an M5-Toyota Coupe-Aston Martin fighter. The use of the V10, especially at that power output, and the SH-AWD would make this coupe a nice performer. I'd rock it. Plus, using this V10 diminishes the per unit cost of the engine when it does get put into the next gen NSX.
If you guys haven't noticed yet, several big name auto manufacturers are staking their future on the FR supercoupe as the next big "thing." I think Honda is wise to bring this to market in '08.
Cliffs: Sweet specs and nice design. There will be another NSX but this isn't it.
About 87k depending on current conversion rates.
Re: the TOV article...fairly sure that's not the next gen "NSX." It is too outside the formula for what makes the NSX unique: aluminium chassis, MR, etc. I'd wager that this is, as the article implies, an M5-Toyota Coupe-Aston Martin fighter. The use of the V10, especially at that power output, and the SH-AWD would make this coupe a nice performer. I'd rock it. Plus, using this V10 diminishes the per unit cost of the engine when it does get put into the next gen NSX.
If you guys haven't noticed yet, several big name auto manufacturers are staking their future on the FR supercoupe as the next big "thing." I think Honda is wise to bring this to market in '08.
Cliffs: Sweet specs and nice design. There will be another NSX but this isn't it.
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Re: (JDMorgan)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMorgan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> till you look at engines like ferarri's v8s. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Have you seen the harmonic balancers on them?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMorgan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> till you look at engines like ferarri's v8s.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Also has a huge harmonic balancer.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Have you seen the harmonic balancers on them?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMorgan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> till you look at engines like ferarri's v8s.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Also has a huge harmonic balancer.
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Re: (Knightsport)
honda NEEDS a v8. for both the ridgeline and the rl. im sure they have one in development. im thinking a new longer stroke v8 for the ridgeline/ piolt. then a smaler displacement v8 for the rl. without a v8 honda cant compeate.
i thinking future honda v8 swap into an s2000!
i thinking future honda v8 swap into an s2000!
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Re: (downeyballz)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by downeyballz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">without a v8 honda cant compeate. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats what people have been saying for years. Amazingly they have done just fine with technology over adding more cylinders.
Thats what people have been saying for years. Amazingly they have done just fine with technology over adding more cylinders.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxxtreme »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats what people have been saying for years. Amazingly they have done just fine with technology over adding more cylinders.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sorta...IMHO. Compared to how well Toyota has done the last several years and the foundational effort (v8, launching Lexus, extensive marketing, constant new model launches, etc.) it took to get there, I'm not sure Honda has done just fine by adding new technology.
For instance, I think the new RL would still be selling very well in the US market if it had a v8 instead of the v6. The Ridgeline may actually be attractive knowing that there's a v8 under the hood.
Now I'm not saying I disagree with Honda's direction or sop, just that the company hasn't done as well as others by relying solely on technology.
Sorta...IMHO. Compared to how well Toyota has done the last several years and the foundational effort (v8, launching Lexus, extensive marketing, constant new model launches, etc.) it took to get there, I'm not sure Honda has done just fine by adding new technology.
For instance, I think the new RL would still be selling very well in the US market if it had a v8 instead of the v6. The Ridgeline may actually be attractive knowing that there's a v8 under the hood.
Now I'm not saying I disagree with Honda's direction or sop, just that the company hasn't done as well as others by relying solely on technology.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ponyboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Interesting... http://www.leftlanenews.com/20...ineup/ </TD></TR></TABLE>
Has to happen sooner or later to keep up with competition
Has to happen sooner or later to keep up with competition
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Re: (downeyballz)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by downeyballz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
and doesnt honda make all the honda v8 engines?</TD></TR></TABLE>
My guess would be yes
Did you mean to say IRL engines? Becuase I think they do.
and doesnt honda make all the honda v8 engines?</TD></TR></TABLE>
My guess would be yes
Did you mean to say IRL engines? Becuase I think they do.
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Re: new nsx engine (Speed Monkey)
The new NSX won't be competing with the Supra. Toyota has no plans to bring it back into production and the Supras on the road will be at least a decade old by then. The next generation GT-R will be its closest competitor and it will also be competing with the lower Ferrari F430 and the Lamborghini Gallardo.
" 2009 Acura NSX, Acura 2009 Future Cars
Acura demonstrated world with there opening NSX that they could acquire a super car and use it on a daily basis driving. Long awaited the current NSX is there since 1991 with some minor updates.
Acura NSX is expected to tap the roads by 2009. The 2009 Acura NSX is going to target Ferrari F430 and Lamborghini Gallardo in a big way and is for sure a big dent into their market.. According to gossips Honda is already testing prototypes for the car in Japan. Front-engine layout, and mid-engine like one in the earlier model is worked on. The car is also probably to have V10 engine with 500 horsepower.
Super Handing All-Wheel Drive is most likely to be used in 2009 Acura NSX as is right now in Acura RL. It will send power to front wheels whenever required. Otherwise front engine layout would run most of the power to the rear wheels."
Modified by RiceNBeans at 3:23 PM 12/17/2006
" 2009 Acura NSX, Acura 2009 Future Cars
Acura demonstrated world with there opening NSX that they could acquire a super car and use it on a daily basis driving. Long awaited the current NSX is there since 1991 with some minor updates.
Acura NSX is expected to tap the roads by 2009. The 2009 Acura NSX is going to target Ferrari F430 and Lamborghini Gallardo in a big way and is for sure a big dent into their market.. According to gossips Honda is already testing prototypes for the car in Japan. Front-engine layout, and mid-engine like one in the earlier model is worked on. The car is also probably to have V10 engine with 500 horsepower.
Super Handing All-Wheel Drive is most likely to be used in 2009 Acura NSX as is right now in Acura RL. It will send power to front wheels whenever required. Otherwise front engine layout would run most of the power to the rear wheels."
Modified by RiceNBeans at 3:23 PM 12/17/2006