new nsx engine
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new nsx engine
wondering what nsx owners' opinions are for the new nsx engine. rumors of v8 or v10 engines have been the main focus. what do you think the new nsx engine should be?
im hoping it to be a 4.0l DOHC iVTEC V8 making around 400hp to the wheels N/A. forged internals, rwd, 7speed manual. also maybe be swappable into current gen nsx's. make it befitting the 80-90k price tag. i know honda can do it if they want to. let me know what you think
im hoping it to be a 4.0l DOHC iVTEC V8 making around 400hp to the wheels N/A. forged internals, rwd, 7speed manual. also maybe be swappable into current gen nsx's. make it befitting the 80-90k price tag. i know honda can do it if they want to. let me know what you think
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Re: new nsx engine (helicopter201)
A lightweight 3.5 V6 pushing out 350hp. 100hp/L. Forged internals, titanium connecting rods, magnesium valve cover etc. RWD, 6-speed manual. A V8 is cool too but I feel that it somewhat detracts from the essence of an NSX and Honda, in general.
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Re: new nsx engine (admiration)
since we're posting opinions...
3.6L V10 400hp. redline 9k ---- 10k for nsx-r
but you will have to pair that with a very lightweight chassis...sub 2800lbs... just so it can compensate for lack of displacement/tq. and a top speed of 200mph AT LEAST...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by admiration »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A lightweight 3.5 V6 pushing out 350hp. 100hp/L. Forged internals, titanium connecting rods, magnesium valve cover etc. RWD, 6-speed manual. A V8 is cool too but I feel that it somewhat detracts from the essence of an NSX and Honda, in general. </TD></TR></TABLE>
nsx will then be in the same class as the evo/sti ... which is NOT what the NSX IS.
the nsx was created to push the [exotic] car market forward. revolutionary is what comes to mind when the nsx was released. it made ferrarri/lambo engineers to step their game up because they kept selling pieces of junk.. fast, but very unreliable and some uncivilized.
3.6L V10 400hp. redline 9k ---- 10k for nsx-r
but you will have to pair that with a very lightweight chassis...sub 2800lbs... just so it can compensate for lack of displacement/tq. and a top speed of 200mph AT LEAST...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by admiration »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A lightweight 3.5 V6 pushing out 350hp. 100hp/L. Forged internals, titanium connecting rods, magnesium valve cover etc. RWD, 6-speed manual. A V8 is cool too but I feel that it somewhat detracts from the essence of an NSX and Honda, in general. </TD></TR></TABLE>
nsx will then be in the same class as the evo/sti ... which is NOT what the NSX IS.
the nsx was created to push the [exotic] car market forward. revolutionary is what comes to mind when the nsx was released. it made ferrarri/lambo engineers to step their game up because they kept selling pieces of junk.. fast, but very unreliable and some uncivilized.
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Re: new nsx engine (helicopter201)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by helicopter201 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> 7speed manual. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I think thats stupid. Youd have to be a clutch *****.
I think thats stupid. Youd have to be a clutch *****.
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Re: new nsx engine (helicopter201)
It will probably have to be a small displacement v8 to keep up with what toyota and nissan are going to be kickin out at the beginning of next year. The skyline will more than likely be a twin turbo 3.5 VQ V6 producing something around 450 HP if not more. Reports that I have read about the Supra suggest that it is going to have a 3.5 V6 also and produce upward of 375 HP NA. One thing is for sure, Honda is going to have to bring its A game, especially since the Supra is going to be starting out at less than 28K when it goes on sale......
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Not that I plan on owning an nsx, but I think an ivtec v8 would be the best option. it would be such a smooth reving motor with a sound that only a ferrari could compete with. I hope the they spend some time on the interior, i never liked the nsx interior.
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Re: new nsx engine (Ponyboy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by helicopter201 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...7speed manual...</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ponyboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You're all wrong. The next NSX engine is going to be a large displacement 2 cylinder...derived from their racing 5500 watt generator. Top that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
.. Do you guys know each other? lol
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ponyboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You're all wrong. The next NSX engine is going to be a large displacement 2 cylinder...derived from their racing 5500 watt generator. Top that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
.. Do you guys know each other? lol
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Re: new nsx engine (helicopter201)
How would there be an iVTEC if its a V8? iVTEC is inline configration. iVTEC and VTEC are kinda different.
But on the topic i'm pretty sure the new NSX will have a V-10 because thats what I've been hearing all the time
But on the topic i'm pretty sure the new NSX will have a V-10 because thats what I've been hearing all the time
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Re: new nsx engine (Honda4lyf)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda4lyf »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How would there be an iVTEC if its a V8? iVTEC is inline configration. iVTEC and VTEC are kinda different.</TD></TR></TABLE> then the odyssey ivtec v6 is...
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Re: new nsx engine (KraZEtEggIE)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KraZEtEggIE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> then the odyssey ivtec v6 is...</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's what the dealer told me when I was buying an accord. I asked him howcome the 4cyl models says iVTEC and V6 says VTEC.
That's what the dealer told me when I was buying an accord. I asked him howcome the 4cyl models says iVTEC and V6 says VTEC.
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Re: new nsx engine (NAisBEST)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda4lyf »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
That's what the dealer told me when I was buying an accord. I asked him howcome the 4cyl models says iVTEC and V6 says VTEC.</TD></TR></TABLE>
not to bash on any slaes people but not every sales person know what their talking about. i personally know of 2 car salesman who really dont have much knowledge of cars at all, they just kind of wing it as they go, or not really care at all
That's what the dealer told me when I was buying an accord. I asked him howcome the 4cyl models says iVTEC and V6 says VTEC.</TD></TR></TABLE>
not to bash on any slaes people but not every sales person know what their talking about. i personally know of 2 car salesman who really dont have much knowledge of cars at all, they just kind of wing it as they go, or not really care at all
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Re: new nsx engine (NAisBEST)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NAisBEST »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the "I" in iVtec stands for intelligent, not inline. </TD></TR></TABLE>
lol.
this thread is sad. Good to see someone knows what theyre on about tho.
lol.
this thread is sad. Good to see someone knows what theyre on about tho.
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Re: new nsx engine (~sp33~)
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/h....html
Has anyone red this? My friend just showed me it and I was amazed. Although, I do know that with Honda, nothing is final until it is built.
Has anyone red this? My friend just showed me it and I was amazed. Although, I do know that with Honda, nothing is final until it is built.
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Re: new nsx engine (90CRXLS)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90CRXLS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.topspeed.com/cars/h....html
Has anyone red this? My friend just showed me it and I was amazed. Although, I do know that with Honda, nothing is final until it is built.</TD></TR></TABLE>
this is the first time me seeing this article. the car looks very similar to the hsc. considering no side mirrors too. i HIGHLY doubt honda will release two engines for the nsx. there would be no point, except try and garner buyers from the supra/skyline market--but those manufacturers 'always' had different intentions for their 'super cars'.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by speedbreaker »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It will probably have to be a small displacement v8 to keep up with what toyota and nissan are going to be kickin out at the beginning of next year. The skyline will more than likely be a twin turbo 3.5 VQ V6 producing something around 450 HP if not more. Reports that I have read about the Supra suggest that it is going to have a 3.5 V6 also and produce upward of 375 HP NA. One thing is for sure, Honda is going to have to bring its A game, especially since the Supra is going to be starting out at less than 28K when it goes on sale......</TD></TR></TABLE>
this again doesn't make sense. honda nsx doesn't compete with the supra and skyline market. so it doesnt' need to be "cost effective" .. a 3.2L nsx cost roughly 85-90k now..the supra at most in its prime was 50k. almost half the price of an new nsx, and the price of an '02 nsx.
what toyota and nissan are bringing to the market are super cars with really big hp numbers. the nissan is rumored to be vq twin turbo =500hp. supra v8 turbo 500-600hp and the supra at -28k.. that has to be a typo.. maybe you meant 38k.. or 48k...
Has anyone red this? My friend just showed me it and I was amazed. Although, I do know that with Honda, nothing is final until it is built.</TD></TR></TABLE>
this is the first time me seeing this article. the car looks very similar to the hsc. considering no side mirrors too. i HIGHLY doubt honda will release two engines for the nsx. there would be no point, except try and garner buyers from the supra/skyline market--but those manufacturers 'always' had different intentions for their 'super cars'.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by speedbreaker »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It will probably have to be a small displacement v8 to keep up with what toyota and nissan are going to be kickin out at the beginning of next year. The skyline will more than likely be a twin turbo 3.5 VQ V6 producing something around 450 HP if not more. Reports that I have read about the Supra suggest that it is going to have a 3.5 V6 also and produce upward of 375 HP NA. One thing is for sure, Honda is going to have to bring its A game, especially since the Supra is going to be starting out at less than 28K when it goes on sale......</TD></TR></TABLE>
this again doesn't make sense. honda nsx doesn't compete with the supra and skyline market. so it doesnt' need to be "cost effective" .. a 3.2L nsx cost roughly 85-90k now..the supra at most in its prime was 50k. almost half the price of an new nsx, and the price of an '02 nsx.
what toyota and nissan are bringing to the market are super cars with really big hp numbers. the nissan is rumored to be vq twin turbo =500hp. supra v8 turbo 500-600hp and the supra at -28k.. that has to be a typo.. maybe you meant 38k.. or 48k...
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I'd say
V8 600HP 6L
6-8 Speed sequential shift manual(rally type)
SH-AWD
Active Suspension.
And a base model
V6, 600HP 3.7L
SH-AWD
6-Speed manual
6speed Automatic with paddleshift
V8 600HP 6L
6-8 Speed sequential shift manual(rally type)
SH-AWD
Active Suspension.
And a base model
V6, 600HP 3.7L
SH-AWD
6-Speed manual
6speed Automatic with paddleshift
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The-Kid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd say
V8 600HP 6L
6-8 Speed sequential shift manual(rally type)
SH-AWD
Active Suspension.
And a base model
V6, 600HP 3.7L
SH-AWD
6-Speed manual
6speed Automatic with paddleshift</TD></TR></TABLE>
not only do i find it really unlike that honda would go with a large displacement engine. but why the hell would the V6 and V8 have the same power output?!?!
V8 600HP 6L
6-8 Speed sequential shift manual(rally type)
SH-AWD
Active Suspension.
And a base model
V6, 600HP 3.7L
SH-AWD
6-Speed manual
6speed Automatic with paddleshift</TD></TR></TABLE>
not only do i find it really unlike that honda would go with a large displacement engine. but why the hell would the V6 and V8 have the same power output?!?!
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realistacally, i personally think they will bring out a 4.0 v8 or v10 8k redline
400 hp 300lbs of torque.
6speed manual, and a 7speed paddle shifter would be nice.
I think their done with v6s in the nsx's, for most people the mentality is "v6 for 100k, no thanks. " in reality, no that many people give a rats *** if it has vtec or not.
i think its going to weight 300-500 more. cars are always getting fatter.
400 hp 300lbs of torque.
6speed manual, and a 7speed paddle shifter would be nice.
I think their done with v6s in the nsx's, for most people the mentality is "v6 for 100k, no thanks. " in reality, no that many people give a rats *** if it has vtec or not.
i think its going to weight 300-500 more. cars are always getting fatter.
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Re: new nsx engine (admiration)
I don't think a V8 detracts from Honda's image. Many Honda race cars have the 3.0L V8.
To compete with the Supra and Skyline, the NSX will need 4wd and crazy hp and turbos sticking out all over. But it has never competed with these before.
Light chassis, low displacement, high reving, RWD is what Honda is good at.
To compete with the Supra and Skyline, the NSX will need 4wd and crazy hp and turbos sticking out all over. But it has never competed with these before.
Light chassis, low displacement, high reving, RWD is what Honda is good at.
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Re: new nsx engine (Speed Monkey)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Speed Monkey »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't think a V8 detracts from Honda's image. Many Honda race cars have the 3.0L V8.
To compete with the Supra and Skyline, the NSX will need 4wd and crazy hp and turbos sticking out all over. But it has never competed with these before.
Light chassis, low displacement, high reving, RWD is what Honda is good at.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i dont' understand what you are saying? the nsx IS faster than the supra and skyline.. stock for stock. when u start modding, OF COURSE a Turbo car is going to gain/have more HP fast/cheaper then the n/a nsx.
you probably just got into jgtc... because nsx whooped *** for years... also the RealTime nsx set the bar for its class.. it retired ON TOP as well. the only car that actually gave it competition were the audi's with the awd (in rainy conditions) everything else, the realtime nsx with cunningham whooped.
To compete with the Supra and Skyline, the NSX will need 4wd and crazy hp and turbos sticking out all over. But it has never competed with these before.
Light chassis, low displacement, high reving, RWD is what Honda is good at.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i dont' understand what you are saying? the nsx IS faster than the supra and skyline.. stock for stock. when u start modding, OF COURSE a Turbo car is going to gain/have more HP fast/cheaper then the n/a nsx.
you probably just got into jgtc... because nsx whooped *** for years... also the RealTime nsx set the bar for its class.. it retired ON TOP as well. the only car that actually gave it competition were the audi's with the awd (in rainy conditions) everything else, the realtime nsx with cunningham whooped.
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what about a 4rotor 3liter rotary...im sure honda could fix the infamous rotary sealing problems if they took the time and effort to do so. of coarse some people would start whining that rotaries cant be measured in liters the same way as pistons can but i concede..some people just cant accept a superior design...anyway any thoughts?