NunRacer

All I know is that my car is 00#850 Big Phat R's car is 00#858 and I can't remember whose car it was but his number was 00#857. All cars were originally purchased from the same Acura dealership in the same year. I guess if we were to compare vin #'s and Type R #'s then we might find a similarity, hopefully.

jond

So it looks like, the higher the badge number, the greater the difference between it and the engine number. Makes me think that some engines must get pulled off the line for either being deffective or for testing.

N1Spec

exactly my point in my previous posts, like it or not there is some correlation between badge no.s and engine no.s

i have alot of frineds with R's here and like i said before the no.s are off at most by 4, and the pattern is exactly the same as you suggested. IE. the higher the badge no. the bigger the difference between badge no and engine no.

Splat

That is the conclusion Willard and I came to. Either that, or they build the engines in order and the cars in order, and then just kind of shuffle them together.

Does anyone have an engine number lower than their badge number?

Cheeseman

If people want to make any sense of this whole ITR# thing, people would have to be willing to post up the last 4 numbers of their vin#. I know I wouldn't want to do that on a public board. But it's the only way I can think of that we can see if there is any pattern or correlation between assembly date, and ITR#.

Cheese~

Splat

VIN has nothing to do with badge number.

The only theory that seems to hold water is the "engine code near badge #" theory.

Jim80y

My badge no is 064, engine no 066

Some ppl though have all matching numbers.

jetydosa

I think they are at least somewhat consecutive. After I got mine, the dealer got like 3 or 4 more, I always checked the numbers and they were higher each time.

Purchased 01-2001, I have #01-0193

jetydosa

Ok, I went and checked my engine number, and it is nowhere NEAR my R#. Assuming I am looking at the right place (right underneath the B18C5)...my R# is 193 and my engine# is almost 600! Wtf.

Chris N

About consecutive badge numbers... at our recent chicago bbq, we had 1107, 1111 and I believe 1106 or 1110. (all 2001's. nsxtc jr can chime in and confirm his badge number....) We all bought ours in the same general area (chicago suburbs) around the same time.

Every attempt to figure out this number system has led to more confusion. Does anyone know anyone at honda that might know this sort of info? SOMEONE knows.... I'm not sure just anyone at honda would know, though. Probably only those who were involved in the project.

The last four (and three) of my vin are not even close to my badge number. I'm not so sure about that theory...


[Modified by 1107, 9:29 AM 10/16/2002]

yoshi234

close but, not quite...
purchase date of #234: November 19, 1999

yshi - who was coincidently able to get the same badge # as his HT name

Nate B

March 30th 2001
Chicago Burbs
ITR#01-1111

Chris N

March 21, 2001.
#01-1107.

I wonder when nsxtc jr got his, his number is very similar to ours, nate. Within one or two of yours/mine. (I can't remember exactly)

Louie

hmmm....3 black R's in socal...(well when kitkat was still here).....#'s 1496, 1497(me), 1498.

so maybe it does go according to the order built. *shrugs*

Nate B

I think he was 1108 or 1109. Plus all three are yellow. I wonder if they numbered them in the order they were built by color???

Splat

Type R's 0006, 0007 and 0009 were all FBP, if that helps.

[edit] dyslexic me today [/edit]


[Modified by Splat, 10:47 AM 10/16/2002]

jet

this is the kind of info i was hoping my thread would generate...after reading louie and 1111's posts, it seems that color might make a difference.

hmmmm.....interesting.

only if there was a to substantiate one of these theories, it would enrichen our knowledge of this car and help those documenting it like itrca...even if it came to be that the numbered badges were just "pulled out of the pile" as they came off the line.......

Dave-ROR

what are you basing this on?

1 AUS guy posted his (532 badge, 534 engine), one 97 ITR swap was posted (matched 75/75) and one 2000 posted (9 - badge 12 or 13 engine, the greatest difference on the lowest number).

None of those cars are from the same year and market.

Any one with a 00 want to post, if you have less then a 3 digit difference then the badge/engine number theory goes out the window.

my guess would be that all the badges/engines were assembled in numerical order but are not placed on the car in numerical order but are close.. but who cares, in the end the badge number is meaningless.

jond

I'll check mine during lunch.

lanceh

it had been determined a long time ago here that the colors were made in batches. there was a registry thread and i started to build a registry db off of it and it was very apparent that cars were made in color batches. here is the list i have for just the 2000 cars. i stopped updating it a long time ago so there are many cars missing but the pattern is obvious.

6 Flamenco Black Pearl
9 Flamenco Black Pearl
31 Phoenix Yellow
47 Flamenco Black Pearl
50 Flamenco Black Pearl
53 Flamenco Black Pearl
64 Flamenco Black Pearl
76 Phoenix Yellow
110 Flamenco Black Pearl
135 Flamenco Black Pearl
141 Phoenix Yellow
149 (D) Phoenix Yellow
157 Phoenix Yellow
158 Phoenix Yellow
160 Phoenix Yellow
171 Phoenix Yellow
184 Phoenix Yellow
189 Phoenix Yellow
193 Flamenco Black Pearl
219 Phoenix Yellow
234 Phoenix Yellow
262 Flamenco Black Pearl
284 Flamenco Black Pearl
296 Flamenco Black Pearl
297 Flamenco Black Pearl
306 Phoenix Yellow
319 Phoenix Yellow
321 Phoenix Yellow
329 Phoenix Yellow
330 Phoenix Yellow
342 Flamenco Black Pearl
347 Phoenix Yellow
361 Flamenco Black Pearl
373 Flamenco Black Pearl
387 Phoenix Yellow
390 Flamenco Black Pearl
442 Phoenix Yellow
456 Phoenix Yellow
457 Phoenix Yellow
458 Phoenix Yellow
463 Phoenix Yellow
464 Phoenix Yellow
477 Phoenix Yellow
484 Phoenix Yellow
498 Flamenco Black Pearl
506 Phoenix Yellow
510 Phoenix Yellow
547 Flamenco Black Pearl
566 Flamenco Black Pearl
574 Phoenix Yellow
585 Phoenix Yellow
616 Phoenix Yellow
625 Phoenix Yellow
630 Phoenix Yellow
646 Phoenix Yellow
656 Flamenco Black Pearl
666 Flamenco Black Pearl
671 Phoenix Yellow
673 Phoenix Yellow
679 Phoenix Yellow
684 Phoenix Yellow
694 Phoenix Yellow
739 Flamenco Black Pearl
748 Phoenix Yellow
756 Phoenix Yellow
757 Flamenco Black Pearl
764 Flamenco Black Pearl
789 Phoenix Yellow
819 Phoenix Yellow
857 Phoenix Yellow
858 Phoenix Yellow
862 (D) Phoenix Yellow
873 Phoenix Yellow
891 Phoenix Yellow
967 Phoenix Yellow
968 Phoenix Yellow
981 Flamenco Black Pearl
1001 Phoenix Yellow
1007 Phoenix Yellow
1009 Phoenix Yellow
1013 Phoenix Yellow
1118 Flamenco Black Pearl
1123 Phoenix Yellow
1125 Phoenix Yellow
1160 Flamenco Black Pearl
1163 Flamenco Black Pearl
1171 Flamenco Black Pearl
1183 Phoenix Yellow
1197 Phoenix Yellow
1209 Phoenix Yellow
1227 Phoenix Yellow
1244 Phoenix Yellow
1275 Flamenco Black Pearl
1321 Phoenix Yellow
1322 Phoenix Yellow
1330 Phoenix Yellow
1341 Flamenco Black Pearl
1351 Flamenco Black Pearl
1360 Flamenco Black Pearl
1366 Phoenix Yellow
1367 Phoenix Yellow
1380 Phoenix Yellow
1382 Flamenco Black Pearl
1392 Flamenco Black Pearl
1464 Flamenco Black Pearl
1468 Phoenix Yellow
1472 Phoenix Yellow
1492 Phoenix Yellow
1494 Phoenix Yellow
1496 Flamenco Black Pearl
1497 Flamenco Black Pearl
1500 Flamenco Black Pearl
1513 Flamenco Black Pearl
1519 Flamenco Black Pearl
1525 Flamenco Black Pearl
1569 Phoenix Yellow

mstewar

isn't it possible that either

a) realtime doesn't really have 00001 and 00002.. where did this come from anyway? do we have some documented source of this info, or is it just passed on word of mouth?

b) canadian and american r's in 97 had separate sets of numbers, resulting in duplicate 00001's?

just thought i'd jump in to the mix with my thoughts.. thanks..

Reid

Exactly.

You must forgive me, I was in an early morning stupor having just come home dead tired.

The correct date is the 14th. I couldn't remember if it was the 14th or 24th, and had intended to change it when I got to work this morning.

The Hawaii Acura dealer does not have to wait until the preset date to deliver their cars, hence we have all always the first people to take delivery of our cars for each model year. Who would have thought my little side comment would actually attract attention?

I can't believe you guys honestly care about the badge car and any relation to any other number on the car. I guess I don't have the true "ITR spirit".

Bud

Here's my theory: Honda knows how many ITRs they are going to produce for any given year woldwide. They are allocated a VIN in whatever way they crank out tegs. Honda has the badges made up and engraved. When the interior is assembled, the interior guy goes over to the box and grabs a badge for your new ride. Simple as that. Obviously the numbers are grouped together in the box, but there probably isn't any rhyme or reason.
I think it is easier for Honda to just build a car, give it a badge and record it (if they keep track at all) than try to have everything match. If there is a problem with ITR XXX on the assembly line, the next car now becomes ITR XXX Oh no they don't match! Who cares, go drive your car.

Reid

Words of a wise man.

Jack Black

Purchased 2/3/2001 (picked it up 2 days later). Still had all the protective plastic on it when I first saw it, and had 6 miles on the clock.

And for those of you who are less-than-observant, that's #01-0851