My "earthing system" install (with pics).
03-04-2003, 05:29 AM
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Re: My "earthing system" install (Allstar)
Turbo magazine dynoed ground kits on three cars this month:
S2000 (near stock), Suzuki Aero (stock I think), Mazda RX7 (heavy tune).
Depending on the state of tune, more power was realized. The RX7 gained up to 15 hp at certain rpms, the S2K only managed ~1.5 or so hp increase, really only in VTEC.
Go check it out
S2000 (near stock), Suzuki Aero (stock I think), Mazda RX7 (heavy tune).
Depending on the state of tune, more power was realized. The RX7 gained up to 15 hp at certain rpms, the S2K only managed ~1.5 or so hp increase, really only in VTEC.
Go check it out
03-05-2003, 07:19 AM
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Re: My "earthing system" install (Tommy_Gunns)
Hey - Im interested in buying one of these kits off of you - but with my obvious newbie status I cant instant message...check your hotmail account. Thanks
[Modified by fenix77, 11:32 PM 3/24/2003]
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03-05-2003, 09:06 AM
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Re: My "earthing system" install (Tommy_Gunns)
The Kmart by my house is going out of business and all of their stuff is on sale. I picked up 40in 4 guage wire plus a battery connector for $7.
03-05-2003, 09:10 AM
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Re: My "earthing system" install (wantmorepower)
KMart has wiring stuff? I didn't know that. Maybe they should have advertised more, then they wouldn't be going out of business 
There's like a dozen going out of business near me, i'll go check it out. Thanks
There's like a dozen going out of business near me, i'll go check it out. Thanks
03-05-2003, 09:59 AM
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Re: My "earthing system" install (Bda91acc)
Hrrr. I have not heard much about this... I will try and install this over the weekend. I can afford a <$50 mod in hopes of more gains. At least I will "think" im faster 
03-05-2003, 10:45 AM
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Re: My "earthing system" install (TypeR 01 886)
okay, i THINK that i have read it all, but does anyone want to help and support me here and give me a full how-to on how to install these things, because i am very curious, and i want to try it. i might even need a safety briefing, just because i am an idiot.
03-20-2003, 11:47 AM
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Re: My "earthing system" install (Tommy_Gunns)
Ok... After reading all of this it seems there are 2 main ways to go about this system...
1)
1. Add grounds to:
- Alternator
- VTEC Solenoid
- Tranny
- Head
- Intake Manifold
- Thermostat Housing
2. Tie all into single grounding point of choice - either neg battery terminal or common chassis ground (up to debate). The point is tying them into a single point.
3. REMOVE
- Stock valve cover ground
- Stock tranny ground?
and 2)
-Firewall to intake manifold
-intake manifold to head
-head to transmission
-head to negative battery terminal
-neg. battery terminal to chassis
-factory grounds left in place
Which do you all prefer?
One more thing: as far as the soldering goes: are you all saying we should solder the ring connectors to the wire we are running (as the new grounds)?
[Modified by servion, 1:48 PM 3/20/2003]
1)
1. Add grounds to:
- Alternator
- VTEC Solenoid
- Tranny
- Head
- Intake Manifold
- Thermostat Housing
2. Tie all into single grounding point of choice - either neg battery terminal or common chassis ground (up to debate). The point is tying them into a single point.
3. REMOVE
- Stock valve cover ground
- Stock tranny ground?
and 2)
-Firewall to intake manifold
-intake manifold to head
-head to transmission
-head to negative battery terminal
-neg. battery terminal to chassis
-factory grounds left in place
Which do you all prefer?
One more thing: as far as the soldering goes: are you all saying we should solder the ring connectors to the wire we are running (as the new grounds)?
[Modified by servion, 1:48 PM 3/20/2003]
04-01-2003, 01:06 PM
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Re: My "earthing system" install (servion)
Ok... After reading all of this it seems there are 2 main ways to go about this system...
1)
1. Add grounds to:
- Alternator
- VTEC Solenoid
- Tranny
- Head
- Intake Manifold
- Thermostat Housing
2. Tie all into single grounding point of choice - either neg battery terminal or common chassis ground (up to debate). The point is tying them into a single point.
3. REMOVE
- Stock valve cover ground
- Stock tranny ground?
and 2)
-Firewall to intake manifold
-intake manifold to head
-head to transmission
-head to negative battery terminal
-neg. battery terminal to chassis
-factory grounds left in place
Which do you all prefer?
One more thing: as far as the soldering goes: are you all saying we should solder the ring connectors to the wire we are running (as the new grounds)?
[Modified by servion, 1:48 PM 3/20/2003]
1)
1. Add grounds to:
- Alternator
- VTEC Solenoid
- Tranny
- Head
- Intake Manifold
- Thermostat Housing
2. Tie all into single grounding point of choice - either neg battery terminal or common chassis ground (up to debate). The point is tying them into a single point.
3. REMOVE
- Stock valve cover ground
- Stock tranny ground?
and 2)
-Firewall to intake manifold
-intake manifold to head
-head to transmission
-head to negative battery terminal
-neg. battery terminal to chassis
-factory grounds left in place
Which do you all prefer?
One more thing: as far as the soldering goes: are you all saying we should solder the ring connectors to the wire we are running (as the new grounds)?
[Modified by servion, 1:48 PM 3/20/2003]
05-06-2003, 10:23 PM
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Re: My "earthing system" install (servion)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by servion »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok... After reading all of this it seems there are 2 main ways to go about this system...
(( series or daisy-chain (so-to-speak) ))
Which do you all prefer?
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... i'd like to know too...
(( series or daisy-chain (so-to-speak) ))
Which do you all prefer?
</TD></TR></TABLE>
... i'd like to know too...
05-07-2003, 01:41 AM
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Re: My "earthing system" install (servion)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by servion »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok... After reading all of this it seems there are 2 main ways to go about this system...
1)
1. Add grounds to:
- Alternator
- VTEC Solenoid
- Tranny
- Head
- Intake Manifold
- Thermostat Housing
2. Tie all into single grounding point of choice - either neg battery terminal or common chassis ground (up to debate). The point is tying them into a single point.
3. REMOVE
- Stock valve cover ground
- Stock tranny ground?
[Modified by servion, 1:48 PM 3/20/2003]</TD></TR></TABLE>
This one.
1)
1. Add grounds to:
- Alternator
- VTEC Solenoid
- Tranny
- Head
- Intake Manifold
- Thermostat Housing
2. Tie all into single grounding point of choice - either neg battery terminal or common chassis ground (up to debate). The point is tying them into a single point.
3. REMOVE
- Stock valve cover ground
- Stock tranny ground?
[Modified by servion, 1:48 PM 3/20/2003]</TD></TR></TABLE>
This one.
05-08-2003, 01:59 AM
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I tried this mod this morning... unfortunately I overtighten it a bit and broke the bolt of the valve cover... LOL
I opened the valve cover and tried to take off the broken bolt but I couldn't do it... so I took the car to a Honda dealer, and they ordered a replacement bolt, and it will cost me about $60 Australian dollars, which is about USD$30.
Now when the engine is turned on, there's some air coming out of the engine...
my questions are : is it ok if i drive it like that (Probably not)?
and... coz i took the cover off, and i found out there was a rubber sealant and on every edges there were something like silicon/rubber glue (sealant)... if i dont use that glue will it leak air or oil? and are there any bad effects?
1 more question, where are the VTEC solenoid, alternator and thermostat housing located?
Thanks guys. BTW... this is my first post... coz i just registered.
I opened the valve cover and tried to take off the broken bolt but I couldn't do it... so I took the car to a Honda dealer, and they ordered a replacement bolt, and it will cost me about $60 Australian dollars, which is about USD$30.
Now when the engine is turned on, there's some air coming out of the engine...
my questions are : is it ok if i drive it like that (Probably not)?
and... coz i took the cover off, and i found out there was a rubber sealant and on every edges there were something like silicon/rubber glue (sealant)... if i dont use that glue will it leak air or oil? and are there any bad effects?
1 more question, where are the VTEC solenoid, alternator and thermostat housing located?
Thanks guys. BTW... this is my first post... coz i just registered.
05-08-2003, 02:11 AM
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Fix everything before you drive it...
clean the gasket with some brake clean.... and remove any loose sealant from the edges....
clean the surfaces...reapply a thin coat of the sealant...close it all up...
then go.
clean the gasket with some brake clean.... and remove any loose sealant from the edges....
clean the surfaces...reapply a thin coat of the sealant...close it all up...
then go.
05-08-2003, 02:33 AM
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hey.... that was a quick reply.. hahaha
i dont have the sealant...
but I think the dealer will apply that sealant right?
can you tell me where the vtec solenoid, alternator and thermostat housing are located?
thanks RagingAngel for the quick reply !!!
i dont have the sealant...
but I think the dealer will apply that sealant right?
can you tell me where the vtec solenoid, alternator and thermostat housing are located?
thanks RagingAngel for the quick reply !!!
05-08-2003, 03:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boszyen »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey.... that was a quick reply.. hahaha
i dont have the sealant...
but I think the dealer will apply that sealant right?
can you tell me where the vtec solenoid, alternator and thermostat housing are located?
thanks RagingAngel for the quick reply !!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
No worries.....
if dealer is doing the replacement for you.... and they go by the book..they will replace the valvecover gasket for you anyway and follow the proper procedures from torque spec to liquid gasket application.
the Alternator is where all the ignition wires are going into (black box looking thing)
VTEC Sol is right in front of it...brownish/dirty brass colored thing
Thermostat housing is where the main water hose is...in the picture..it is the water pipe that flows from the radiator....essentially it goes right under the alternator.
i dont have the sealant...
but I think the dealer will apply that sealant right?
can you tell me where the vtec solenoid, alternator and thermostat housing are located?
thanks RagingAngel for the quick reply !!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
No worries.....
if dealer is doing the replacement for you.... and they go by the book..they will replace the valvecover gasket for you anyway and follow the proper procedures from torque spec to liquid gasket application.
the Alternator is where all the ignition wires are going into (black box looking thing)
VTEC Sol is right in front of it...brownish/dirty brass colored thing
Thermostat housing is where the main water hose is...in the picture..it is the water pipe that flows from the radiator....essentially it goes right under the alternator.
05-08-2003, 03:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RagingAngel »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
...the Alternator is where all the ignition wires are going into (black box looking thing)
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Thought that was the distro. The alternator is out of sight. Look straight down the driverside shock tower. Its got a belt on it.
...the Alternator is where all the ignition wires are going into (black box looking thing)
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Thought that was the distro. The alternator is out of sight. Look straight down the driverside shock tower. Its got a belt on it.
05-08-2003, 03:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gaskleppie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">4 guage, 8 guage,..........
How thick is this in mm2?????
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http://www.itvss.com/pdf/Ameri...t.pdf
16 mm2 is more than enough for grounding...
How thick is this in mm2?????
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http://www.itvss.com/pdf/Ameri...t.pdf
16 mm2 is more than enough for grounding...
05-08-2003, 04:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tommy_Gunns »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You definitely do NOT want to ground the distributor.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I dont see why not, the distributor shell is already grounded.
I dont see why not, the distributor shell is already grounded.
05-09-2003, 05:49 PM
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I just did the home made earthing system. Did I notice anything? Slight throttle response increase. We did it on my buddy's subaru though and it made a world of difference. Cost of materials: $20 - that covered both cars. for $10 a pop, definitely worth it.
05-09-2003, 10:21 PM
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I have added ground cables to the valve cover and tranny but have not noticed any difference in throttle response. LoL.
However I notice that my wallet is missing +-AUD$100 ====> I overtighten the valve cover bolt, n broke it...
Didn't think the bolt would break that easily. hahaha
Should I continue with the vtec sol, alternator, etc? Coz I'm not really sure where they're located (although RagingAngel has told me)...
However I notice that my wallet is missing +-AUD$100 ====> I overtighten the valve cover bolt, n broke it...
Didn't think the bolt would break that easily. hahaha
Should I continue with the vtec sol, alternator, etc? Coz I'm not really sure where they're located (although RagingAngel has told me)...