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Old 02-26-2010, 07:09 AM
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I ordered a Mugen intake from A&J Racing Back in June 09 and now it's finally here. The thing is, it came with a K&N air filter. Just wondering if anyone else here with the Mugen intake could fill me in a little here because I thought that Mugen made their own filter for their own intake. The pics on King Motorsports website show a yellowish gold filter. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated
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i use to have a Mugen intake on my ITR. If it doesnt look like the picture, you got screwed out of the REAL (very difficult to obtain) Mugen filter!
http://www.jhpusa.com/store/pc/catal....airbox2_d.jpg
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Wow. Was AJR faking Mugen parts too?
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Wow. Was AJR faking Mugen parts too?
i didnt even know about AJ racing selling fake parts until yesterday! crazy
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I've got an extra Mugen Filter lying around. PM me if you want it. Will let go for cheap.
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Originally Posted by get RIGHT
Wow. Was AJR faking Mugen parts too?
Sounds like it.
My air filter is mugen. Adds 14hp too!
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Originally Posted by 97CWITR
Sounds like it.
My air filter is mugen. Adds 14hp too!
yes it does add 14whp but if you retro fit a spoon air filter on a mugen intake to create the SPOOGEN cold air intake im pretty sure its 71WHP!
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http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/site-...-products.html

dont know if you guys can read this, but AJR has been accused a bunch of times for selling fake j's racing stuff.
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^^That has been cleared up. If you read the whole thing, it was a misunderstanding on J's Racing part. They came in saying AJR was selling fake products and threaten legal action, but when AJR called their bluff, J's Racing shut up. If you read the whole thread, it states that J's Racing has taken a silent vow, which means they can say no more and neither can AJR, but they did release the statement saying it was a very large misunderstanding.
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^^That has been cleared up. If you read the whole thing, it was a misunderstanding on J's Racing part. They came in saying AJR was selling fake products and threaten legal action, but when AJR called their bluff, J's Racing shut up. If you read the whole thread, it states that J's Racing has taken a silent vow, which means they can say no more and neither can AJR, but they did release the statement saying it was a very large misunderstanding.
What's the justification for J's to call them out? There has to be a reason.
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Originally Posted by b20eg6hatch
^^That has been cleared up. If you read the whole thing, it was a misunderstanding on J's Racing part. They came in saying AJR was selling fake products and threaten legal action, but when AJR called their bluff, J's Racing shut up. If you read the whole thread, it states that J's Racing has taken a silent vow, which means they can say no more and neither can AJR, but they did release the statement saying it was a very large misunderstanding.
I dont buy it. First J's and now this. There is no way in Hell I would ever buy from AJR again. And thats saying something, up until this scandal broke I thought Ben had good cust service.
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Originally Posted by tipe R
Hey guys
I ordered a Mugen intake from A&J Racing Back in June 09 and now it's finally here. The thing is, it came with a K&N air filter. Just wondering if anyone else here with the Mugen intake could fill me in a little here because I thought that Mugen made their own filter for their own intake. The pics on King Motorsports website show a yellowish gold filter. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated
Post a picture of what you got. And aren't you local to them? Take it back in and see what they have to say.
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I dont buy it. First J's and now this. There is no way in Hell I would ever buy from AJR again. And thats saying something, up until this scandal broke I thought Ben had good cust service.
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What exactly happened? i keep hearing they are legit and were just accused of selling fake **** and then i hear this! someone tell me what is going on with them! i just bought a spoon rearview mirror from them!
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The filter looks the same as the Mugen except it's red and has K&N stamped on the rubber seal. It's also in a K&N bag. I don't think the air cleaner itself is fake. If it is it's an excellent copy. I think it's more likely that somebody in between here and japan pulled a little switch-a-roo but I'm not making any accusations yet. I emailed an authorized dealer and they're reviewing pics I sent. I'll contact AJR when I hear back from them.
thanks everyone for your input!
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What exactly happened? i keep hearing they are legit and were just accused of selling fake **** and then i hear this! someone tell me what is going on with them! i just bought a spoon rearview mirror from them!

Originally Posted by J's Racing
Dear Ben Leung

First of all, it is almost 9 years since we, J’s Racing, started a business
relationship with your company in 2002. We fully acknowledge that your sales
& marketing have made the current J’s Racing popular status in the North America
and we deeply thank you for that.
Unfortunately we have to present you a rather unpleasant notice today. We recently
learned that in spite of your status of an official distributor of J’s Racing, you
have been copying J’s Racing products in a factory abroad and selling the products
as the genuine J’s Racing merchandise.
In order to verify the information and to get the clear evidence we actually purchased
a product from you for an inspection. Regrettably we found that you not only copied the
product but also copied our packing tape and box to make the product look exactly like a
genuine J’s Racing product.
Now that we have a proof and we consider your conduct as a criminal offense, we no longer
can maintain the current business relationship with you. We have already consulted an
attorney in the British Columbia and we are ready to take strong legal actions if necessary.
We strongly feel that an official distributor should be the one policing the copied or
knockoff products. It is outrageous that an official distributor itself sells a copied
product as a genuine one. This is an inexcusable conduct even from the social point of
view and we will not forgive this kind of crime.
Regarding this matter, we are considering the number of actions. We will give you one
chance of providing us a sincere response and coming up with an offer for a monetary
Our actions include but are not limited to
1) Termination of the distributor status
2) A legal action to demand accounting information on the quantity of the copied products
produced and to demand a definite proof for destroying the copied products.
3) Bringing a criminal charges against A&J Racing
4) Disclosure of the issue on our website using your company’s name
5) Disclosure of the issue on the several forums in the world using your company’s name
To name several forums,
http://www.s2ki.com/
http://www.*************/
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/
https://honda-tech.com/
http://hondamarketplace.com/
http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/
http://www.team-integra.net/
http://www.definitivedriving.com/
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/
6) Notification of the issue to all the manufacturers J’s Racing has business relationship with
7) Notification of the issue to all the companies J’s Racing has traded with
8) Notification of the issue to all the magazine publishing companies A&J Racing has relationship with
9) Notification of the issue to your father, Anthony
Those actions will inflict serious damages to your company.
In the business world, the trust is the most important. It is very regrettable you have lost our trust.
We will be waiting for your sincere response and a specific compensation offer.
The deadline is April 22, 2009.
Sincerely
J’S RACING Junichi Umemoto
J’S RACING Hisaaki Murakami
http://ameblo.jp/umemotojunichi/entry-10430432876.html

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=718060
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I dont buy it. First J's and now this. There is no way in Hell I would ever buy from AJR again. And thats saying something, up until this scandal broke I thought Ben had good cust service.

I'm not sure what exactly has happened here. I'm not accusing AJR of any wrong doing as of now. I haven't had any previous issues with A&J but I wanted clarification from those that have bought this intake that it should come with a Mugen filter. Once I have spoken with AJR and have all the info I will update the thread
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Originally Posted by tipe R
I'm not sure what exactly has happened here. I'm not accusing AJR of any wrong doing as of now. I haven't had any previous issues with A&J but I wanted clarification from those that have bought this intake that it should come with a Mugen filter. Once I have spoken with AJR and have all the info I will update the thread
As a Mugen intake owner myself. They do not come with K&N filters. So this looks very suspect especially in light of their recent past accusations.

Could you also take a pic of the box and instructions for us? I can tell you real quick if thats authentic or not as well.
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As a Mugen intake owner myself. They do not come with K&N filters. So this looks very suspect especially in light of their recent past accusations.

Could you also take a pic of the box and instructions for us? I can tell you real quick if thats authentic or not as well.
I took the pics but i dont know how to resize them and post them in a reply.
If someone can tell me how to do it I'll put em up
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also what size should they be so they fit in the post and don't take up the whole screen?
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1- decide which picture you want to place here.

2- try to re-size it to a med size : 800x600

3- for resizing needs if you use Win XP : http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/down ... rtoys.mspx
If you don't have XP try using a program such as Photoshop.

4- Once you have the picture edited to a reasonable size you need to host it.
I found these easy to use but you can only load one pic at a time. They are http://www.photobucket.com and http://www.picturepush.com
5- Now that you have used one of these servers you will see a link, Cut and paste that on this site surrounded by [i m g] first and then [/i m g] last (just be sure to eliminate the spaces between the letters.)

6-Now try it out.



OR

see where it says attachments when you post a reply? You can upload pics from your comp there.
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That letter Shawn posted was crazy! If it is true then yea they do need to be out of business.

OP I think something fishy is going on. You wouldn't just end up with a K&N with a Brand new Mugen intake. I could be wrong
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People don't get accused more than once for no reason. Let us know if A&J clears this up.
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also what size should they be so they fit in the post and don't take up the whole screen?
Put your pics back up. I was just comparing to some others and there are some things you need to see. Also can you take pics of the sides of the box where the Mugen packing labels are at?

First of all I am not saying yours is fake.
What I noticed off the top was,

Alex tape. It would have come with Mugen tape. Why was the box opened?

K&N filter. Why was the replaced? Mugen filter cost over $200, KN around $50. See a problem here?

The Mugen sticker. That doesnt look like the normal mugen intake sticker. Heres what mine looks like, unless it has been changed recently.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...3500331fix.jpg

Its silver flaked and a diff design than yours. Why?
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