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Old 12-13-2002, 10:20 AM
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Default Final Drive question - Look inside

I am about to purchase a USDM ITR tranny with a 5.0 Cusco final drive. Will the acceleration be noticeably quicker than with the stock 4.40 FD? Also, how high will my revs be when cruising at 75-80 MPH (about 120 km/hr)?

My stock USDM ITR tranny will be up forsale at a reasonable price once this new tranny goes in.




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Old 12-13-2002, 10:23 AM
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Wow. 5.0FD. Acceleration will be much quicker and you'll be shifting at lower mph's than you are used to.

For all the info you'll need:

http://www.autocrossing.com/cgi-bin/gearcalc.cgi

RPM in 5th gear at 70mph: 4256
This is assuming you have 195/55/15's.


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Old 12-13-2002, 10:24 AM
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Default Re: Final Drive question - Look inside (canuck-mx6)

yeah, its a hell of a difference over stock FD. I think someone on the board posted a pic of the gauge cluster showing the ATS final drive at like 80mph, and the revs were at like 5K(maybe more, I dont remember) in 5th gear.
Old 12-13-2002, 10:39 AM
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Damn you are going to have some fun on the highway with that FD.
Old 12-13-2002, 10:44 AM
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that'd be hell for my ears on the freeway.
Old 12-13-2002, 10:57 AM
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.....if you don't get it, tell us where we can.

That will be kickass with jun 3's...
Old 12-13-2002, 12:47 PM
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I'll let you guys know for sure in the spring....

Suffice it to say, that I will still be NA, but no longer 1.8 Litres
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I got 4.7 in hatchcrap and it is around 4500 at 80mph.
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i heard cusco fd's are weak though
Old 12-13-2002, 02:39 PM
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ATS all the way! I love mine
Old 12-13-2002, 02:43 PM
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Here is a list of speed vs. rpm with a 5.0 Final and ITR 5th gear. This assumes a stock tire size.
2500 40.2
2600 41.8
2700 43.4
2800 45.0
2900 46.7
3000 48.3
3100 49.9
3200 51.5
3300 53.1
3400 54.7
3500 56.3
3600 57.9
3700 59.5
3800 61.1
3900 62.7
4000 64.4
4100 66.0
4200 67.6
4300 69.2
4400 70.8
4500 72.4
4600 74.0
4700 75.6
4800 77.2
4900 78.8
5000 80.4
5100 82.1
5200 83.7
5300 85.3
5400 86.9
5500 88.5
5600 90.1
5700 91.7
5800 93.3
5900 94.9
6000 96.5
6100 98.1
6200 99.8
6300 101.4
6400 103.0
6500 104.6
6600 106.2
6700 107.8
6800 109.4
6900 111.0
7000 112.6
7100 114.2
7200 115.8
7300 117.5
7400 119.1
7500 120.7
7600 122.3
7700 123.9
7800 125.5
7900 127.1
8000 128.7
8100 130.3
8200 131.9
8300 133.5
8400 135.1
8500 136.8
8600 138.4
8700 140.0
8800 141.6
8900 143.2
9000 144.8
9100 146.4
9200 148.0
9300 149.6
9400 151.2
9500 152.8
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Default Re: Final Drive question - Look inside (Ausmith)

i actually thought it would be worse then that, you wont top out till like 150mph.
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I think cursing RPM would be very similar to the ATS 4.929 FD. May be 20-30RPM higher than the ATS one.
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I think cursing RPM would be very similar to the ATS 4.929 FD. May be 20-30RPM higher than the ATS one.
yeah its really not much different at all from the ATS it just sounds higher. How much of a diference could 0.071 really make?
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Damn you are going to have some fun on the highway with that FD.
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Just curious...

What would 0 to 60 mph and 1/4mile times be for an otherwise stock Type R with this final drive?
Has any one autocrossed with 4.7+ final drive and noticed a big impact on autocrossing?

Anyone?

Thanks.
Old 12-13-2002, 08:48 PM
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i want a 6.5 final drive

edit: and 6th and 7th gears


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Has any one autocrossed with 4.7+ final drive
no this has never been done
Old 12-13-2002, 09:01 PM
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I'd like to witness the wheelspinning mess of a 4.9FD ITR tranny and a b20/vtec at an autox... LSD or not...
Old 12-14-2002, 04:23 AM
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I think cursing RPM would be very similar to the ATS 4.929 FD. May be 20-30RPM higher than the ATS one.

yeah its really not much different at all from the ATS it just sounds higher. How much of a diference could 0.071 really make?
With ATS Final:
2500 40.8
2600 42.4
2700 44.1
2800 45.7
2900 47.3
3000 49.0
3100 50.6
3200 52.2
3300 53.9
3400 55.5
3500 57.1
3600 58.8
3700 60.4
3800 62.0
3900 63.7
4000 65.3
4100 66.9
4200 68.6
4300 70.2
4400 71.8
4500 73.5
4600 75.1
4700 76.7
4800 78.4
4900 80.0
5000 81.6
5100 83.3
5200 84.9
5300 86.5
5400 88.2
5500 89.8
5600 91.4
5700 93.0
5800 94.7
5900 96.3
6000 97.9
6100 99.6
6200 101.2
6300 102.8
6400 104.5
6500 106.1
6600 107.7
6700 109.4
6800 111.0
6900 112.6
7000 114.3
7100 115.9
7200 117.5
7300 119.2
7400 120.8
7500 122.4
7600 124.1
7700 125.7
7800 127.3
7900 129.0
8000 130.6
8100 132.2
8200 133.9
8300 135.5
8400 137.1
8500 138.8
8600 140.4
8700 142.0
8800 143.7
8900 145.3
9000 146.9
9100 148.5
9200 150.2
9300 151.8
9400 153.4
9500 155.1
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Here's 5th gear with the ATS Final and their gear set.

2500 33.5
2600 34.8
2700 36.2
2800 37.5
2900 38.9
3000 40.2
3100 41.5
3200 42.9
3300 44.2
3400 45.6
3500 46.9
3600 48.2
3700 49.6
3800 50.9
3900 52.3
4000 53.6
4100 54.9
4200 56.3
4300 57.6
4400 59.0
4500 60.3
4600 61.6
4700 63.0
4800 64.3
4900 65.7
5000 67.0
5100 68.3
5200 69.7
5300 71.0
5400 72.4
5500 73.7
5600 75.0
5700 76.4
5800 77.7
5900 79.1
6000 80.4
6100 81.7
6200 83.1
6300 84.4
6400 85.8
6500 87.1
6600 88.4
6700 89.8
6800 91.1
6900 92.5
7000 93.8
7100 95.1
7200 96.5
7300 97.8
7400 99.2
7500 100.5
7600 101.8
7700 103.2
7800 104.5
7900 105.9
8000 107.2
8100 108.5
8200 109.9
8300 111.2
8400 112.6
8500 113.9
8600 115.2
8700 116.6
8800 117.9
8900 119.3
9000 120.6
9100 121.9
9200 123.3
9300 124.6
9400 126.0
9500 127.3
Old 12-27-2002, 06:27 AM
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Default Re: Final Drive question - Look inside (Ausmith)

Thank you for the calculations, I guess that I won't be speeding on the highway, so high revs are a good thing
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This is ridiculous!
I was turning 3500 in my CRX @ 80 mph just yesterday!
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Have mercy!
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http://www.itrca.com/FAQ/performance/gearratiosheet.xls

try this. might need to DL and modify.


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